W. Chris Shank on 25 Jan 2007 17:50:44 -0000


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Re: [PLUG] Macbook Pro update


I just think it's funny. I've always heard those arguments as reasons why people want to stay with windows - now I'm using these same arguments why i want to stay with linux. i guess i can see things from the windows users perspective a little better now. but, in the case of the windows->linux switch, we all know that Linux is the superior OS. i think in the linux->OSX switch, that linux is still the superior OS, at least for me. so if i could get linux on this ass-kicking hardware, it's be all set.





----- Original Message -----
From: TuskenTower <tuskentower@gmail.com>
To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List <plug@lists.phillylinux.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 12:13:43 PM GMT-0500
Subject: Re: [PLUG] Macbook Pro update

> Gosh. I sound like a windows user switching to linux. Go figure.

Them's fightin' words!  ;) Of course you need an obligatory comment
about viruses and spyware to really sound like a winDOwS user
switching to linux. :P

On 1/25/07, W. Chris Shank <shankwc@acetechgroup.com> wrote:
> Yeah I've done all that. I've tried 4 different terminals. Some do tabs but
> don't display curses well. Some have tabs and do curses but you can't launch
> any Mac OS apps from them because they run from X11 (why I need X to run a
> terminal??) and don't have proper paths or something.
>
> I've got FF set to download into a separate folder, but what I'm talking
> about is not handled by downloads. On any other system, the PDFs would open
> inside a browser plugin - but on the mac it downloads to the desktop and
> launches in Preview, even though I have Acrobat 8 installed.
>
> I've got virtue, but it's buggy and not well configured. Windows pop-up in
> other desktops with no notification that they are there.
>
> All of these issues are probably fixable if I had the time/desire to really
> fix them. But I'm comfortable in Linux and know how to be productive in it
> quickly. It has the apps I need. I don't want to switch OSs any more.
>
> Gosh. I sound like a windows user switching to linux. Go figure.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Randy Schmidt <x@altorg.com>
> To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List
> <plug@lists.phillylinux.org>
> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 11:42:28 AM GMT-0500
> Subject: Re: [PLUG] Macbook Pro update
>
> I can't help you with a lot of that but here are a few things that may
> help when you have to use OS X. Give iTerm a try. It is a terminal app
> that lets you have tabs. I think the PDF thing is a setting in the
> browser. Virtue is a program that lets you have multiple desktops but
> I don't particularly like the way it handles applications on the
> different desktops. You can't drag an app to the edge of the window to
> put it on another desktop. I hope that helps a little.
>
> On 1/25/07, W. Chris Shank <shankwc@acetechgroup.com> wrote:
> > There are many standard Linux apps that I can't get to properly  "port" on
> > OS X or are completely unavailable as source. I guess I could try to
> > download the source and attempt to compile it directly, but I think that
> is
> > what ports is doing. Some of the alternative apps just suck in comparison.
> > My biggest beef is the crappy terminal. I like have tabs, I like to
> > highlight and center button to paste, I like virtual desktops, I like not
> to
> > have to clear 1000 PDFs off the desktop because i've clicked them open in
> a
> > browser (I guess linux is putting these in /tmp).
> >
> > I also find the interface a little much after a while. I'm always
> minimizing
> > windows to get to what's beneath. I've got the dashboard set to flatten
> out
> > the screens when I move the mouse to a corner, but that still takes about
> > 3/10 of a second. that adds up after a while.
> >
> > I like the hardware and the sensors are neat. But after a while all that
> > doesn't matter.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Edward Smola <n-tropy@n-tropy.com>
> > To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List
> > <plug@lists.phillylinux.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 10:43:22 AM GMT-0500
> > Subject: Re: [PLUG] Macbook Pro update
> >
> > What do you miss about linux ?
> > I have ubuntu with beryl installed at work and on a desktop machine
> > at home that I rarely use.
> > You can run pretty much most apps you would under linux on the MBP.
> > I'm just looking forward to see if the native gtk support in leopard
> > is true. would be nice not to have to run x11 anymore for some apps.
> >
> > http://www.mactel-linux.org/wiki/Main_Page
> >
> > I used bootcamp to install windows and have a vmware linux and
> > windows partitions on osx also.  I can't tell you the last time i
> > booted to the windows partition and have rarely used the linux and
> > widnows vmware installs.
> >
> > On Jan 25, 2007, at 10:26 AM, W. Chris Shank wrote:
> >
> > > My love affair with the macbook pro is over. I just got it back
> > > after a week to replace the main logic board. During that time I
> > > was back to Linux desktop/laptop and I realized how much I missed
> > > it. I think I'll reserve OS X for graphics work, but will use Linux
> > > for my day-to-day real work. Has anyone seen a how-to for putting
> > > Linux on the new Core 2 Duo macbook pro? Do I need bootcamp for this?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > >
> > >
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