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Re: [PLUG] dynamic IP and economics
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Hi Fred
If they do not have a big scary barking dog, you can have small intelligent puppy at home to do that. I did a search on froogle("dsl router watchdog").
http://www.sureneeds.com/smcwhsg44g.html
I tried once with an ISP. They courteously told me that they did not support other modems.
With regards
Antony
On Sun, 2007-05-27 at 08:58 -0400, Fred Stluka wrote:
Antony,
Yes, the DSL modem is supplied by Voicenet. Over the years, I have
twice talked them into sending me a new one, when it started happening
more often. Sometimes it goes months or years w/o a problem. When it
started happening about every month and then twice in one week, I had
them send me a new one. A couple years later, the same thing.
Gradually more frequent. Had them ship me a new one. Each time they
argued that it wouldn't help, and they didn't want to do it, claiming
that there must a problem with the phone line causing the outages.
Both times I pointed out that resetting the DSL modem was always a
fix to the problem. Both times I had to ask to speak to a supervisor
and had to threaten to cancel my service to get the new DSL modem.
Both times, the new DSL modem made a big difference.
Voicenet does apparently have a watchdog facility. However, it seems
to just take notes and never bark. Each time, they were able to confirm
the times and durations of my recent outages. Neither time did they
bother to do anything about it. On the other hand, how do they know
I haven't lost power, or intentionally unplugged it, or something?
--Fred
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Antony P Joseph wrote:
Hi
Is your DSL router supplied by DSL provider ? I have the same story.
It stalls and I have to reset manually. I switched a couple of ISPs. All
of them supplied me with hanging router/modem. In my opinion ISPs should
supply router/modem with watch dog facility.
With regards
Antony
On Fri, 2007-05-25 at 18:29 -0400, Fred Stluka wrote:
Doug,
What speed are you getting for that price? I've been with Voicenet
for years and am currently paying about $100/month for 768/768 with
10 static IPs (of which I really only need 2-3). Service and support
have been pretty good. Only problem is that the DSL router seems to
stall out and need resetting (cycle power) occasionally.
I did all my own DNS, SMTP, HTTP, etc for years. Finally decided my
e-mail had become mission-critical and I was tired of being responsible
for it, so I farmed out the DNS and SMTP to Network Solutions. I still
do my own Web server, including Tomcat and MySQL, so my clients can see
the Java/XML/AJAX Web applications I am developing for them.
--Fred
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Doug Crompton wrote:
I am in the same boat although I have some time. How much is
unknown.
I currently have DSL with DCAnet and pay $44/month for static. It comes
with 6 IP's. I use 2. One would be sufficient but I like redundancy and I
have some SW that needs to run on different external IP's.
Like you I do everything myself. I use my ISP only for a pipe to the
internet. I use NO other services of my ISP. I do DNS, mail, http,
asterisk and many others directly.
I know that dynamic can be made to work but it is or can be a pain
especially if you have an isp that likes to change IP's often. Other isp's
virtually never change.
My problem is that DCAnet is no longer (I am told) doing residential DSL.
I assume I can stay with them for awhile but at some point they may pull
the plug (with some notice I hope). If they did the options are becoming
less and less. ISP's are that can supply other than dialup are few and far
between anymore. You really only have the biggies as options in most
cases. That would be Verizon and Comcast. Both will supply static but the
cost is steep. The problem is they supply it as a business package which
is totally overkill in our situations. We do not need their web space, 500
mailboxes etc. Suppling a static IP without other services would be
cheaper to the ISP than Dynamic with the services. But that is their
business plan.
So what is one to do? I don't know. The world is changing and the days of
having fun rolling your own are becoming harder and harder. If anyone has
an answer I would love to hear about it?
Doug
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