Brian Vagnoni on 22 Jan 2008 16:20:06 -0800


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Re: [PLUG] Adventures in PCMCIA wireless


I've been using Suse since version 7 or 8 and it has always warned me, then asked for my permission via a yes or no conformation whether or not to upgrade the kernel. But my question wasn't about which distro is better. I was just curious why people go to all the trouble with these ....... less popular versions of Linux when they seem to me to have problems doing technically more advanced stuff.

Why do people seem to dislike OpenSuse and like Ubuntu more? Most people work out of a bash or zsh terminal. You've seen one bash or zsh shell you have seen them all. It seems kind of fad-ish to me. I remember when Gentoo was all the rage; and I just now struggled to remember its name. This was back when Gentoo came without X support.

Again just curious, not trying to start a debate over which distro is better(we all know it's better with BSD :-) ). Just why people seem to chose the distro that they do.

Brian Vagnoni



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From: James Barrett [mailto:jadoba@jadoba.net]
To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List [mailto:plug@lists.phillylinux.org]
Sent: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 19:00:57 -0500
Subject: Re: [PLUG] Adventures in PCMCIA wireless

Yeah, I had SuSE on the machine in which I used the orinoco card. Aside
from SuSE upgrading a kernel and not telling me, and then when I went to
upgrade it again a couple weeks later it upgraded the kernel, AGAIN, and
when I went to reboot it was hosed because I was not told to reboot the
first time... it was a good distro.


On Tue, Jan 22, 2008 at 06:47:21PM -0500, Brian Vagnoni wrote:
> Ahhh, install Suse. Not trying to a smart #$% I guess I just don't
understand why people try and get stuff to work with these slightly off
the beat and track versions of Linux. Please educate me, I can see just
doing it for the challenge and not having a life factor. However, to
read some of the comments posted by many on this list and seeing the
trouble they've had had why bother. If you want to do all the cool
fangled stuff, go with Suse/Opensuse, Redhat/Fedora. I mean won't it be
easier just to take a vanilla kernel and make your own distro (insert
your name) Linux. I guess distro to distro I don't see a lot of
differences unless you are talking about a Backtrack, Knoppix-STD, and
or Helix or other purpose driven distro's.
>
> I mean if I want a lean mean distro I just don't compile everything
plus the kitchen sink into it. I can get that with Suse or Redhat and 9
x out of 10 stuff works out of the box without me having to do anything.
>
> Just curious.
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> Brian Vagnoni
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> From: Art Alexion [mailto:art.alexion@verizon.net]
> To: plug@lists.phillylinux.org
> Sent: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 15:54:07 -0500
> Subject: [PLUG] Adventures in PCMCIA wireless
>
> I finally got a wireless card that was recognized by my wife's kubuntu gutsy
> laptop. It is an older Dell "B", that uses the "orinoco" chip set. The
> first time I tried it it spotted our network along with 3 or 4 more in the
> neighborhood. As I didn't have the passphrase for out network handy, I
> allowed it to connect to one aptly called "Rayz is Free, <street address>".
> Everything worked fine.
>
> After work, I got our passphrase out and tried to connect to our network. It
> spotted the network but wouldn't connect. Then after a few tries at manual
> configuration (using the KDE gui), it wouldn't "see" any of the networks. I
> hacked at it a few more times, and now it doesn't even recognize that the
> card is in there.
>
> Any ideas how to return this kubuntu gutsy machine back to default settings as
> far as PCMCIA wireless?
>
> Google has not been helpful, largely because I can't seem to craft an
> appropriate query.
>
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