TuskenTower on 13 Feb 2008 09:31:55 -0800


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Re: [PLUG] Finding a motherboard with a BIOS that does not block CPU virtualization


Brian,
I believe Bhaskar is not reselling.  From a consumer perspective,
NewEgg (especially the reviews) is the best.  Yes, you are right,
there are motherboard differences and you won't know what you are
getting.  On that note, NewEgg puts out more information than the rest
of the consumer hardware sites.

Bhaskar,
I checked the reviews on NewEgg and both motherboards had reviewers
stating that a BIOS update enabled virtualization.

If you choose to go Intel, use an E6300 or above.  The only VT capable
machine that I have heard hobbled by the manufacturer is the Mac Mini.
 In the Intel machines that I have used (except my iMac), turning VT
on is a processor option.

Amul



On Feb 12, 2008 9:43 PM, Brian Vagnoni <bvagnoni@v-system.net> wrote:
>
>  Uh don't buy from Newegg. You don't work with any channel partners (time to
> grow up and work with real business people, friendly suggestion and IMHO).
> If you are reselling I suggest going through and getting an account from
> Ingram Micro or Tech Data. You won't get old stuff. Newegg again IMHO is
> typically for end users who don't know any better. There are also hardware
> revisions on a lot of motherboards you could have an old hardware version
> even though you have an updated bios.  Only stepping huh?  E stepping can
> mean a 10 - 20% increase in performance among other benefits. Of course
> Newegg isn't going to tell you that. I recommend Supermicro or Tyan, though
> everyone has a preference. Sometimes paying a couple of dollars more from a
> real reseller gets you current equipment as well as a face to talk with and
> get support from.
>
> I can tell you right now from experience there is very little markup in the
> computer hardware business. Unless you are selling thousands of boxes the
> money is in support and software. So you should really deal with someone who
> doesn't have a warehouse with a lot of inventory getting old as it will
> ensure that you get the most up to date equipment. Then there is also the
> problem with the rate at which computer equipment deprecates.
>
> Typically what I see at the distributor level is brand new models and what I
> see on the web at bargain prices and super stores are old phased out models.
> Again go to http://www.techdata.com or http://www.ingrammicro.com and pay
> the extra couple of bucks if that.
>
> Brian Vagnoni
>
>
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> ________________________________
> From: K.S. Bhaskar [mailto:bhaskar@bhaskars.com]
> To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List
> [mailto:plug@lists.phillylinux.org]
> Sent: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:30:59 -0500
> Subject: Re: [PLUG] Finding a motherboard with a BIOS that does not block
> CPU virtualization
>
>
> On Feb 12, 2008 5:11 PM, Matt Mossholder <matt@mossholder.com> wrote:
>  >
>  > On Tue, 2008-02-12 at 17:10 -0500, K.S. Bhaskar wrote:
>  > > [KSB] Matt, in both motherboards, I have not found a BIOS setting to
>  > > enable virtualization. If it exists, it is a well buried secret not
>  > > shared with hoi polloi like me. Any idea where to look? Thanks.
>  > >
>  > > Regards
>  > > -- Bhaskar
>  >
>  > What models are the motherboards?
>
>  [KSB2] Gigabyte GA-M61P-S3 and GA-M68SM-S2. I'll take a look again
>  next time I boot the machines (probably tomorrow), but could not find
>  anything that looked like a switch for virtualization in the BIOS on
>  either. Both boards are recent and have recent BIOSes (the latest
>  production releases are just stepping updates).
>
>  -- Bhaskar
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