Glenn Kelley on 23 Jun 2008 11:44:14 -0700


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Off Topic - but close enough
A friend of mine just wrote a blog post about the gasoline driven church
Those numbers however do make me think about what it would be like if  
all employers that could would allow people to work from home...

Never mind the price of parking in the city...
 From flowerdust.net --->

     *Say 3000 people attend your church.

     *Average family of four equals 750 vehicles.

     * Average fuel economy: 26mpg…but we’ll assume 20mpg for in-town  
driving, SUV’s, idling, etc.

     *Average miles to place of worship? We’ll assume 15 round trip.  
Conservative.

     That’s 750 vehicles traveling 15 miles, divided by 20 mpg: 562.5  
total gallons for fuel burned.

     At 4 dollars per gallon, that’s $2,250 dollars per week. or  
$117,000 per year for the congregation.

puts a whole new spin on the “consumerist” mindset, huh?

based on those numbers, it seems like it would cost the average  
american church-going family $3/week or $156/year to drive to church.

i realize megachurches are the minority, so you here’s the math…(and  
yes, my head hurts from trying to figure this all out!)

church of 100: $3,900

church of 250: $9,750

church of 500: $19,500

church of 1000: $39,000

and for kicks, i thought i’d do lakewood church…since i have been on a  
joel osteen kick and all.

church of 40,000: $1,560,000

just to drive to church…
On Jun 23, 2008, at 2:35 PM, Art Alexion wrote:

> On Monday 23 June 2008 11:24:32 am Sean C. Sheridan wrote:
>>> Mind you, that doesn't include operating costs, and with gas prices
>>> increasing, can electricity costs be far behind?
>>
>> We get roughly 1/3 of our electricity from coal which we have in  
>> abundance
>> and is not getting more expensive.
>
> Not expensive now, but as the price of oil increases, the demand  
> pressure will
> be on coal as well.  If the demand to replace petroleum with ethanol  
> drives
> up the price of corn and other crops, how can coal be immune?
>
>
>> The second third, roughly, comes from
>> nuclear ("nukular", if you are a fan of Bush&co.).
>
> An infrastructure that has been halted since TMI in 1979.  Assuming  
> we get a
> third from this source, it can't increase because there is no extra  
> capacity.
>
>
>> So while natural gas
>> prices *may* rise, it won't have the impact many fear.
>
> Yes, and the economy must be good because people are still buying  
> tickets to
> baseball games....
>
>
>>
>> Besides, the oil bubble is going to pop and energy will be  
>> affordable once
>> again.
>
> I've lived through a few of these since the 1973 Embargo, and while  
> they tend
> to ebb and flow, they leave the landscape changed as they do.
>
> While Japanese cars really started to overtake Detroit due to quality
> comparisons in the 1980s, they got their footload in the two oil  
> crises of
> the 1970s.  Huge strides were made in energy efficiency, but cheap  
> gas in the
> 1990s diverted the gains into greater power for small cars (at the  
> expense of
> fuel efficiency) and the surge in SUVs.
>
> These things leave their scars, some attractive, others ugly, even  
> when they
> are perceived to run their course.  One thing different this time  
> around is
> the damand from China and India.
>
> Truck prices are down, SUV sales are dead, Scooter sales are up.   
> Increases in
> SEPTA ridership have exceeded rolling stock capacity, so they are just
> running the same trains more often.  We decided that it was a good  
> time to
> virtualize.
>
> If prices do stabilize, some people will continue to ride SEPTA, and  
> we'll
> still be virtualized.
>
>
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