LeRoy on 1 Jul 2009 05:36:55 -0700 |
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Michael Bevilacqua wrote: > On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Jonathan E. Magen <yonkeltron@gmail.com > <mailto:yonkeltron@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Debian's default settings are wonderful and my machines (server, > desktop, laptop and mobile device) rarely suffer from performance > issues which could be attributed to poor optimization during compile > time. Furthermore, Debian's apt-build tool has matured quite nicely > and allows you to compile any package, on demand, with any > optimizations you might desire. It downloads the source deb, > compiles it and builds a binary deb which you can then > install/upgrade as you like. > > > > I agree that more than 90% of the time, Debian fits the bill for the > desired server application. And Ubuntu for the desired desktop. It's > that other 5-10% where knowing Gentoo is truly useful. Bleeding edge > hardware falls into this category. Embedded hardware as well. And as > Richard mentioned, the ability to have choice in your base dist when > your development application requires it. > > Sure, you can trim down Debian/Ubuntu. You can even wait for > Debian/Ubuntu to come around to support the new chips. Or you can > quickly roll your own custom system from the ground up. In my > experiences, rolling your own custom system with Debian/Ubuntu breaks > the defaults along the way and doesn't take advantage of Debian/Ubuntu's > primary strength; APT. Also, rolling your own Deb/Ubu system takes > installing even more packages than is already necessary for the base > dist itself, creating even more unnecessary time and space restraints on > your overall project goals. > > Being able to use Debian and Ubuntu is great when and where you can. But > when you can't, I have yet to find a better alternative solution than > Gentoo. At least, in my experiences. > I totally agree with all of the above, but there are times that just compiling a custom kernel on a Debian system is enough to make your system's hardware work. For instance when I bought this laptop last year there was no support for the wireless Internet. Linux kernel 2.6.27 contained the patch for the Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. Compiling the ath9k module into the kernel with the Debian package "kernel-package" and the command make-kpkg which builds a .deb file like linux-image-2.6.27.5-03-686_03.custom_i386.deb For a firewall or some other single application device I would first attempt to use Debian base install before going the Gentoo route. Also I would compile a custom kernel without module support with just support for the hardware in the device. - -- Rev. LeRoy D. Cressy mailto:leroy@lrcressy.com /\_/\ http://lrcressy.com ( o.o ) Phone: 215-535-4037 > ^ < Cell: 267-307-3527 gpg fingerprint: 62DE 6CAB CEE1 B1B3 359A 81D8 3FEF E6DA 8501 AFEA For info on enigmail: http://lrcressy.com/linux/mozilla.pdf For info on gpg: http://www.gnupg.org/ Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. (John 14:6) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQEVAwUBSktYEKuxGqN1iGbbAQL56gf+IiAm0vQbNwe7lCB0C4NR1G0jAQ9LAeaM KD96UXAXomYIJB2I5I84IXA4scTG05CntUYAnG0z2L93SDcciCppN1yiiNLgCk/v YjlJjCLi5eKh32zUmopLzIcgFYJ7S93XLOLDqUaOXJdlma0tTmoIXYJiX00Cnx2e BtG2I+l5OonxN2KMGn+E3LQzdGS0DnCJ7/K2JyJciKcyrLcspJ3TJv1egVlMsGN1 M+PJnaGA4DKyLRWz3KfvgSM2fAWZoTtAaZzxZE6hsNqgBCkJvlMY082foIOC5Pw3 HG+exzcnPPSg4K+VFEGkITTIutUZtEPWrqZ3vc5ADYwgle9joREkWw== =TGFV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
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