Rich G on 15 Sep 2009 11:36:50 -0700

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Re: [PLUG] Quicken alternative?

I use MoneyDance and have been for many years.  The only issue I have
with it is, the intelligence to pre-populate an entry during a QIF
import is not to my personal liking.  I'd prefer to be able to disable
this totally.  I have printed some things such as reports but not

Support for MD is fantastic.  I just lost my laptop drive and started
recovering apps and data.  I wrote to the MoneyDance support address to
get the license key and got it within hours.  I wound up exchanging
emails - on a Sunday no loss, to resolve a crashing problem while
importing QIFs.  I found I should be using the Sun JAVA vice the open
source version (the default Java w/Ubuntu; this version crashed
consistently while MoneyDance worked just fine with the Sun version).

As for downloading, I had great support in the past.  I presume you mean
downloading data from institutions.  I download data from American
Express without any issue.  BoA - did not work.  I solved that - I don't
use my BoA credit card!  My credit union also does not work.  Both do,
however, export data into a QIF file ... which works.  This is a bank
issue not MD's fault.  I tried to talk with my credit union tech folks.
they don't understand the web connection details.

Your comment about it not being free is true but I wish to caveat that.
It "costs" US$15.  What is missed is - Sean Reilly has provided free
upgrades for years - including major upgrades.  This is not a
conglomerate ripping the users off!  In fact, he donated money to the
Virginia Tech folks after the shooting.  As my daughter was there
(thankfully ok), I will say that Sean, owner of Reilly Technologies,
deserved great recognition for giving back in non-traditional ways.
The fact MD is written in Java and runs on multiple platforms (I used in
Linux and tested in Windows) is a major asset.  And they do not limit
the licensing to a single machine.  So, while not open source and free,
I find MD to be a great app.  Quicken does not compare to MD in my eyes.


NB:  No - I don't work for Sean - only emailed with him.  

On Fri, 2009-09-11 at 03:15 -0400, JP Vossen wrote:
> As I'm moving my wife over to Ubuntu, 2 of the problems are going to be 
> Quicken and TurboTax.  I'll keep a VM for TT, but Quicken is more of a 
> day-to-day issue.
> I hate Quicken anyway, since they deliberately break stuff every few 
> years to force you to buy an upgrade you don't need.  I refuse to do 
> that, so we're still using Quicken 2003.  But my wife would like to be 
> able to download transactions, which is one feature they break on 
> purpose.  I just noticed I had Quicken 2006 CD's laying around, but they 
> just broke that in the middle of 2009.  3 years to EoL is not acceptable.
> For now, Quicken 2003 runs flawlessly under Wine on Hardy (using the 
> updated PPA Wine).
> She wants to be able to download stuff, and we need something that can 
> print checks, since we still do a lot of that.  And I'd prefer 
> cross-platform, just in case she has to go back to Windows (hope not, 
> but...).  I also want something that is not full of bugs and is actually 
> maintained and supported.
> I've looked at GNUCash and I like it, except it can't print more than a 
> single check at a time, which is a show stopper for us.  (LONG-standing 
> bug:
> KMyMoney is useless since it can't download or print checks at all.  Not 
> sure I'd call it cross-platform either.
> Grisbi is a 0.x.x version, and does not look well maintained.
> That leaves MoneyDance, which is Java (yuck), and neither free nor open 
> source (yuck^2).  But it is cross-platform, supported, and supposedly 
> does everything I need.  I haven't gotten downloading to work yet, and I 
> think the interface is a tad ugly (and to be uglier than a GNU GUI app 
> like GNUCash is saying something).  But it might work, though I'm 
> slightly worried about getting on another upgrade treadmill.
> What is everyone else doing (besides not printing checks anymore, yeah, 
> yeah, I know...)?  Any other clues?
> Thanks,
> JP
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