Nicholas Gasparovich on 27 Sep 2012 18:40:15 -0700


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Re: [PLUG] MythTV + HDHR3-CC + Comcast?


Are you able to tune any premium channels (HBO/Showtime/etc) with the
new device?  I had heard it was tricky, but only from second and third
sources...

-Nick


On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 8:02 PM, JP Vossen <jp@jpsdomain.org> wrote:
> Update:
>
> Short Version: The HDHR3-CC Just Worked, even using stock MythBuntu
> 10.04.  (Sort of.  Good enough for now.)
>
>
> Medium version: My MythTV now sees 4 tuners, 2 old and 2 new and the
> recording conflict is gone.  But it should see 5, 2 old and 3 new.  So
> the new tuner kinda works, but MythTV does not see the last tuner, and I
> doubt the cable-card features work.
>
> That is a project for another time, along with better racking of the
> devices.
>
> There's also the blindingly obvious point that took me a day to see;  I
> don't have to remove the old tuner to see if the new one works...  Duh...
>
>
> Long version (setup):
>
> x Got the HDHR3-CC for $149.99 (is now $139.99 from same place).
> x Grab MAC address off bottom and create a static lease:
>         x vi /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf
>                 # HD Homerun tuner PRIME CC
>                         host mythtv-hdhomerun-02 {
>                         hardware ethernet 00:18:DD:xx:xx:xx;
>                         fixed-address 192.168.xx.xx;
>                 }
>         x /etc/init.d/isc-dhcp-server restart
> x Update DNS server zones
> x Run Mythbuntu 10.04 stock 'hdhomerun-config-gui' (circa 2010)
>         = Just Worked, sees 5 tuners, all 5 seem to work (have signal)
> x MythTV Setup:
>     ### On MythTV-be-01
>     x Apps > System > MythTV Backend Setup
>         "2. Capture Cards"
>             "HDHomeRun DTV tuner box"
>                 1314xxxx-0
>             "HDHomeRun DTV tuner box"
>                 1314xxxx-1
>             >>> NOT FOUND: <<<
>                 1314xxxx-2
>         "4. Input Connections"
>             [ HDHomeRun : 1314xxxx-0 ] (MPEG2TS) -> Comcast-Digital
>                 "HDHR3 0 Comcast"
>             [ HDHomeRun : 1314xxxx-1 ] (MPEG2TS) -> Comcast-Digital
>                 "HDHR3 1 Comcast"
>
>
> Yet again, thanks Matt!
>
> When time permits, can you elaborate on:
>
>> 2) Cablecard is most definitely worth it. No more worrying about
>> Comcast moving the channels to different multiplexes, etc. The only
>> thing you have to worry about is them changing virtual channel number
>> that a given station is assigned. That doesn't happen very often, and
>> they typically send snail-mail notification.
>
>
> I'm quite sure I'll need the current Mythbuntu and MythTV, and to actually
> set up the CableCard features.  But after that...
>
> How does this work?  Does it need setup steps?  Or fiddling with
> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/PrimeUpdateScript?
>
>
>> Depending on the rep at comcast, you might even get the card gratis.
>> Make sure you tell them you aren't using a TiVo!
>
>
> Huh?  Anyone have a story to share or advice here?
>
>
>> I have heard they work with FiOS, but haven't seen it myself.
>
>
> Likewise, any stories?  Based on all of the ONT/MOCA/ActionTec/Whatever
> stories, I plan to avoid this.  But...you never know...
>
> (To interject some points from other recent threads)
> I've had FiOS Internet for a few years now and with 1 exception it mostly
> works.  I avoid their DNS servers like the plague though I suppose you can
> argue that OpenDNS isn't much better.  Fewer eggs (data) in any one basket,
> et least.  And I suppose I could VPN via my hosted server too, if I wanted.
> Have to think about bandwidth fees there though.  I've done that before via
> SSH while on vacation to avoid injected adds and trash in the local "free
> WiFi."
>
>
>
>> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 08:16:04 -0400 From: Matt
>> Mossholder<matt@mossholder.com>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 3:02 AM, JP Vossen<jp@jpsdomain.org>  wrote:
>>
>>>> Last Fall I bought a 2 tuner HDHR3-US when Comcast switched me
>>>> to all digital.  That part of the conversion worked great with
>>>> MythTV (the channel setup was a giant pain, which Matt helped me
>>>> out with).
>>>>
>>>> Now however, 2 tuners are not quite enough, as I'm getting a
>>>> conflict. I could just live without the conflicting show, I
>>>> could buy another HDHR3-US for $82 [1], or I could buy a HDHR3-CC
>>>> for $150 until 2012-09-21 [2]. While more expensive, the HDHR3-CC
>>>> has both 3 tuners and is cable-card ready.
>>>>
>>>> 1) Does that Just Work with Mythbuntu 10.04LTS (yes, 10.04, not
>>>> upgraded yet, so mythtv-0.23.0+fixes24158-**0ubuntu2)?
>>>>
>>>> 2) Is the cable-card part worth it?  Does that actually work
>>>> with Myth and Comcast (or FiOS)?  I don't actually care at the
>>>> moment, but you never know...
>>>>
>>>> 3) I guess I could also try old-school over-the-air (OtA), but
>>>> that requires an antenna and still needs a tuner to plug that
>>>> into, so to a certain extent I'm back where I started, right?
>>>> Or am I missing something really obvious?
>>>>
>>>> Anything else I'm not thinking of?
>>>>
>>>> As I write and re-read this, it really seems like it makes the
>>>> most sense to just bite the bullet and buy the $150 HDHR3-CC. And
>>>> I suppose that frees up the original HDHR3-US tuner for OtA
>>>> if/when I get around to it?
>>>>
>>>> Thoughts? JP
>>>>
>>>>
>> 1) Not sure that the CC models worked until 0.24 ... Worth
>> researching. At very least you will need updated libhdhomerun
>> libs/utils.
>>
>> 2) Cablecard is most definitely worth it. No more worrying about
>> Comcast moving the channels to different multiplexes, etc. The only
>> thing you have to worry about is them changing virtual channel
>> number that a given station is assigned. That doesn't happen very
>> often, and they typically send snail-mail notification. Also, it is
>> even more in the "just works" category than the original HDHRs.
>> Depending on the rep at comcast, you might even get the card gratis.
>> Make sure you tell them you aren't using a TiVo! I have heard they
>> work with FiOS, but haven't seen it myself.
>>
>> 3) If you get the CC model, you could do both... us the older HDHR
>> for OTA, and the newer one for cable.
>
>
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