| Grabowy, Chris on 28 Sep 2012 04:49:00 -0700 |
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| Re: [PLUG] EXTERNAL: Re: MythTV + HDHR3-CC + Comcast? |
A very interesting thread. One of these decades I will get around to setting this up.
> Depending on the rep at comcast, you might even get the card gratis.
> Make sure you tell them you aren't using a TiVo!
So before I had switched to FIOS, I was using Comcast and at one point both of my cablecards for my two Tivos became free. Actually, I was getting a small credit for each one...like 3-4 dollars per CC. There was some FCC ruling that if you sign up for a TV package that includes a cable box and you refuse to use that cable box because you are going to use your own (Tivo) then you get that credit.
Apparently FIOS doesn't play that way. You get your package of channels and then you pay for every box you rent, including CCs. Oh well.
Not sure if Comcast still offers packages with boxes included, but that was pretty sweet seeing that credit every month. Regardless, FIOS rolled into my neighborhood, and the promotional deals were too good to pass up so I switched.
My humble question...I thought cablecards only work with Windows Media Center?? So was MythBuntu updated with something that can interface with cablecards?? When that Ceton card first came out it was huge but seemed way over priced and being forced to use Windows/Windows Media Center it just seemed to be too expensive. Oh well.
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From: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org [mailto:plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org] On Behalf Of JP Vossen
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 8:03 PM
To: plug@lists.phillylinux.org
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [PLUG] MythTV + HDHR3-CC + Comcast?
Update:
Short Version: The HDHR3-CC Just Worked, even using stock MythBuntu 10.04. (Sort of. Good enough for now.)
Medium version: My MythTV now sees 4 tuners, 2 old and 2 new and the recording conflict is gone. But it should see 5, 2 old and 3 new. So the new tuner kinda works, but MythTV does not see the last tuner, and I doubt the cable-card features work.
That is a project for another time, along with better racking of the devices.
There's also the blindingly obvious point that took me a day to see; I don't have to remove the old tuner to see if the new one works... Duh...
Long version (setup):
x Got the HDHR3-CC for $149.99 (is now $139.99 from same place).
x Grab MAC address off bottom and create a static lease:
x vi /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf
# HD Homerun tuner PRIME CC
host mythtv-hdhomerun-02 {
hardware ethernet 00:18:DD:xx:xx:xx;
fixed-address 192.168.xx.xx;
}
x /etc/init.d/isc-dhcp-server restart
x Update DNS server zones
x Run Mythbuntu 10.04 stock 'hdhomerun-config-gui' (circa 2010)
= Just Worked, sees 5 tuners, all 5 seem to work (have signal)
x MythTV Setup:
### On MythTV-be-01
x Apps > System > MythTV Backend Setup
"2. Capture Cards"
"HDHomeRun DTV tuner box"
1314xxxx-0
"HDHomeRun DTV tuner box"
1314xxxx-1
>>> NOT FOUND: <<<
1314xxxx-2
"4. Input Connections"
[ HDHomeRun : 1314xxxx-0 ] (MPEG2TS) -> Comcast-Digital
"HDHR3 0 Comcast"
[ HDHomeRun : 1314xxxx-1 ] (MPEG2TS) -> Comcast-Digital
"HDHR3 1 Comcast"
Yet again, thanks Matt!
When time permits, can you elaborate on:
> 2) Cablecard is most definitely worth it. No more worrying about
> Comcast moving the channels to different multiplexes, etc. The only
> thing you have to worry about is them changing virtual channel number
> that a given station is assigned. That doesn't happen very often, and
> they typically send snail-mail notification.
I'm quite sure I'll need the current Mythbuntu and MythTV, and to
actually set up the CableCard features. But after that...
How does this work? Does it need setup steps? Or fiddling with
http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/PrimeUpdateScript?
> Depending on the rep at comcast, you might even get the card gratis.
> Make sure you tell them you aren't using a TiVo!
Huh? Anyone have a story to share or advice here?
> I have heard they work with FiOS, but haven't seen it myself.
Likewise, any stories? Based on all of the ONT/MOCA/ActionTec/Whatever
stories, I plan to avoid this. But...you never know...
(To interject some points from other recent threads)
I've had FiOS Internet for a few years now and with 1 exception it
mostly works. I avoid their DNS servers like the plague though I
suppose you can argue that OpenDNS isn't much better. Fewer eggs (data)
in any one basket, et least. And I suppose I could VPN via my hosted
server too, if I wanted. Have to think about bandwidth fees there
though. I've done that before via SSH while on vacation to avoid
injected adds and trash in the local "free WiFi."
> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 08:16:04 -0400 From: Matt
> Mossholder<matt@mossholder.com>
>
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 3:02 AM, JP Vossen<jp@jpsdomain.org> wrote:
>
>>> Last Fall I bought a 2 tuner HDHR3-US when Comcast switched me
>>> to all digital. That part of the conversion worked great with
>>> MythTV (the channel setup was a giant pain, which Matt helped me
>>> out with).
>>>
>>> Now however, 2 tuners are not quite enough, as I'm getting a
>>> conflict. I could just live without the conflicting show, I
>>> could buy another HDHR3-US for $82 [1], or I could buy a HDHR3-CC
>>> for $150 until 2012-09-21 [2]. While more expensive, the HDHR3-CC
>>> has both 3 tuners and is cable-card ready.
>>>
>>> 1) Does that Just Work with Mythbuntu 10.04LTS (yes, 10.04, not
>>> upgraded yet, so mythtv-0.23.0+fixes24158-**0ubuntu2)?
>>>
>>> 2) Is the cable-card part worth it? Does that actually work
>>> with Myth and Comcast (or FiOS)? I don't actually care at the
>>> moment, but you never know...
>>>
>>> 3) I guess I could also try old-school over-the-air (OtA), but
>>> that requires an antenna and still needs a tuner to plug that
>>> into, so to a certain extent I'm back where I started, right?
>>> Or am I missing something really obvious?
>>>
>>> Anything else I'm not thinking of?
>>>
>>> As I write and re-read this, it really seems like it makes the
>>> most sense to just bite the bullet and buy the $150 HDHR3-CC. And
>>> I suppose that frees up the original HDHR3-US tuner for OtA
>>> if/when I get around to it?
>>>
>>> Thoughts? JP
>>>
>>>
> 1) Not sure that the CC models worked until 0.24 ... Worth
> researching. At very least you will need updated libhdhomerun
> libs/utils.
>
> 2) Cablecard is most definitely worth it. No more worrying about
> Comcast moving the channels to different multiplexes, etc. The only
> thing you have to worry about is them changing virtual channel
> number that a given station is assigned. That doesn't happen very
> often, and they typically send snail-mail notification. Also, it is
> even more in the "just works" category than the original HDHRs.
> Depending on the rep at comcast, you might even get the card gratis.
> Make sure you tell them you aren't using a TiVo! I have heard they
> work with FiOS, but haven't seen it myself.
>
> 3) If you get the CC model, you could do both... us the older HDHR
> for OTA, and the newer one for cable.
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