Re: [PLUG] Windows 10/UEFI/SecureBoot

Originally I was wondering if I'd have enough to talk about, now I'm wondering how much I'll have to leave out, but I'll do my best.

Regarding manufacturers, there's no hard rules, but I'll do my best to spell things out and show how to check potential new purchases for the ability to disable. For example, I know Dell's Precision and Latitude line have always offered the option so far, but I know the popular XPS line is hit and miss, and the home-oriented lines are likely to omit the option (Don't confuse the plebes!).

On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Keith C. Perry <kperry@daotechnologies.com> wrote:

This is shaping up to be an very very important talk. I agree, it's deeply disheartening that hardware manufacturers would be of the mind to willing cripple their hardware in a way that take away consumer choice.

Rich, not to make more work for you but would be appropriate to identify some of the manufacturers that do not do this?

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From: "Rich Mingin (PLUG)" <plug@frags.us>
To: "Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List" <plug@lists.phillylinux.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 12:55:08 PM
Subject: Re: [PLUG] Windows 10/UEFI/SecureBoot

That's deeply disheartening. I guess I'll add more info about setting up and getting around under Secure Boot to my UEFI info.

On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 12:29 PM, PaulNM <plug@paulscrap.com> wrote:
On 12/22/2015 12:23 PM, Rich Mingin (PLUG) wrote:

It's a requirement for the Windows logo program that x86 machines be
able to disable Secure Boot. It's a requirement for the Windows logo
program for other architectures that it *not* be possible to disable
Secure Boot. I have Secure Boot disabled on all my systems except one,
an HP Stream 7 that simply will not/can not disable it. It's important
to note that while you can turn SB on and off, turning it on will
generally break any boot setups that are already in place.

That was true under 8/8.1, but allowing people to disable Secure Boot is now optional for x86 systems shipped with Windows 10. If the hardware manufacturer doesn't want to provide an off switch, they don't have to anymore.

- PaulNM

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