Keith C. Perry via plug on 6 Apr 2020 09:18:49 -0700


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Re: [PLUG] Dual booting Linux and Windows


That's a good idea too but to this day I still mostly use a Lubuntu 16.04 LTS live CD on the new Windows 10 laptops I'm wiping and imaging.  The only kernel level issue I've run into recently is with a small HP server (I can't remember why at this point) and I think my ThreadRipper workstation might have had an issue with recognizing the NVMe slot.  18.04 LTS wasn't out then so I most likely would have used a Fedora or Debian Testing iso.

My point is that I suspect it may also be something other than direct hardware support.  I STILL can't get ANY Linux distro to work on a 3 year "Chinese" Baytrail / Cherry trail Windows 10 tablet from 3 or 4 years ago (and that was with Arch).  There continues to be an inconsistent process with modifying or removing Windows on some of these newer systems even though as Rich pointed out, you pretty much should use UEFI these days.

(Which now that I think about it, was why had to use 18.04 LTS on that HP server)

I hope you get it working though Eric.  Only other suggestion I have is to pull the drive and and make all the changes in virtualization so that the hardware bios is not and issue.  I have had to do that too.  Just make sure you use the UEFI bios for qemu (Tiano core) and you'll be good to go when you put the drive back in its bare metal.


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From: "K.S. Bhaskar via plug" <plug@lists.phillylinux.org>
To: "PLUG Philadelphia Linux Users Group" <PLUG@lists.phillylinux.org>
Sent: Monday, April 6, 2020 11:55:05 AM
Subject: Re: [PLUG] Dual booting Linux and Windows

It is quite possible that the Ubuntu kernel is too old for the new hardware you have. I have encountered that before, though I have not stayed current enough to hazard a guess as to what is not compatible. Try an Arch ISO with a new kernel and see whether that recognizes the drive.

Regards
– Bhaskar

On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 11:43 AM Eric H. Johnson via plug <plug@lists.phillylinux.org> wrote:
Keith,

Running fdisk from the live OS shows only one device, the 3.8GB thumb drive. The 1 TB drive does not appear. It does appear in the BIOS, obviously since Windows boots to it.

Thanks,
Eric


It is possible, though not probable, that Ubuntu is not showing the drive because there is no free space on it.  That's never happened to me but I haven't dual booted with any Windows stuff in a long time.

When I do anything like that, I boot a "live" OS from USB so I can do all re-partitioning and resizing manually.

Have you checked to see if a live OS can see the SSD?  Since you turned off the secure boot items I can't see why you wouldn't be able to read and write to that disk.  Also, Rich M. did a presso on this awhile back and if I recall correctly, a trusted UEFI file would need to have a key.  You might want to enable secure boot again so you can turn that off (then turn off the secure boot again).


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From: "Eric H. Johnson via plug" <plug@lists.phillylinux.org>
To: "Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List" <plug@lists.phillylinux.org>
Sent: Sunday, April 5, 2020 9:37:26 AM
Subject: [PLUG] Dual booting Linux and Windows

All,

Just got a new laptop. Don’t usually use Acer, but the Acer Aspire 5 came top rated for use with Linux. It also came with a 1TB SSD which makes it nice for dual boot, however I am having difficulty doing that. The existing OS is Windows 10 Pro.

I modified the BIOS to boot the thumb drive with Ubuntu Linux 18.04 LTS, and disabled secure boot. However running the Ubuntu install does not seem to see the hard drive and wants to install to the thumb drive, which it cannot since it is too small. Under the security tab there are other secure boot settings, but can only be accessed if secure boot is enabled. These settings include:

Secure boot mode: currently set to standard
Select an UEFI file as trusted

Note: A security password must be set to access the security and boot settings.

Anyone know the necessary settings to get Ubuntu to install for dual boot?

Thanks,
Eric


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