Re: [PLUG] ESR: Last phase of the desktop wars

[JP Vossen via plug <plug@lists.phillylinux.org>]

On 9/25/20 8:04 PM, Eric S. Raymond wrote:
> Huh.  You know that's such an astute point that I may add a PS on it.

Cool, happy to help!


On 9/25/20 8:16 PM, Walt Mankowski via plug wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 08:00:24PM -0400, JP Vossen via plug wrote:
> > ESR's latest http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=8764 is entitled "Last phase
> > of the desktop wars?"  I found it really interesting, but I was very
> > surprised that he didn't mention that this is *exactly* what Apple
> > did with MacOS, except they put their GUI and walled garden on top
> > of BSD and not Linux.
>
> Apple's user and development communities were orders of magnitudes
> smaller, and they made their devs rewrite their apps using a
> completely different API, programming language, and design
> language. It's hard to imagine Microsoft doing that.

Walt, you'd know much more about that than I do, so I'll take your word for it.  I agree I can't see MS trying to force a re-write, that's part of their stability problem, the inability to get away from decades of hardware, drivers and code.  That's a double-edged sword with the massive code-base & technical debt on one side and vast backwards compatibility on the other.

But I also don't see that that's what ESR is saying or what they are doing.  See TFA's the "old-Windows emulation" part...  And THAT makes me think WINE, except official and from the inside out instead of the outside in.

Also, if you think of Windows as just another GUI and Desktop environment like Gnome or KDE or whatever else, it does get...interesting.  (Yeah, yeah, very different OS syscalls, etc..)


On 9/25/20 8:30 PM, Charlie Li via plug wrote:
> I'm not gonna bother to resist.
> IT'S THE FINAL COUNTDOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Damn, I really shoulda seen that coming!  :-)

Later,
JP
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