Keith C. Perry via plug on 19 Dec 2024 13:47:33 -0800


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Re: [PLUG] File System Corruption


Rich,

Right to repair is ***very*** important...

Point of clarity though, you're talking about https://frame.work/ , yes?

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Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2024 4:42:38 PM
Subject: Re: [PLUG] File System Corruption

I know it doesn't help the current issue, but I just wanted to note
that things like "memory is soldered to the motherboard" are precisely
why I'm using Framework for my current laptops, and future ones,
unless something changes.

Right to Repair is important.

On Thu, Dec 19, 2024 at 3:33 PM Casey Bralla via plug
<plug@lists.phillylinux.org> wrote:
>
> The logs didn't show anything that I could see.
> Smartctl showed no errors, and it passed the diagnostics
> <sigh>
>
> I think Keith is correct that I've just got a flaky motherboard.  I'll probably replace it at some point in 2025.  Craig's list anyone?
>
>
> On 12/19/24 9:53 AM, Keith C. Perry wrote:
>
> I just had a similar issue with a workstation.  For 2 years, it would randomly crash or lock up.  It might happen once then not again for week, maybe month or it would happen every day, even multiple times a day, for a week.  There was no patten.
>
> After a bios upgrade and multiple memory tests the only thing left was the motherboard and indeed that is what is was.  7 years is decent run for a laptop so it might be time to replace the hardware.
>
>
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> Keith C. Perry, MS E.E.
> Managing Member, DAO Technologies LLC
> (O) +1.215.525.4165 x2033
> (M) +1.215.432.5167
> www.daotechnologies.com
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> Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2024 8:32:41 AM
> Subject: [PLUG] File System Corruption
>
> I've got an occasional catastrophic problem with a Dell Laptop, and I'm hoping someone on this list can steer me to a possible solution.
>
> The system:
>
> Dell E7250 laptop, circa 2017
> i5 CPU
> 8 GBytes RAM (soldered in place... not a DIMM)
> 1 TByte M.2 SATA disk using ext4 file system
> Gentoo stable with "gentoo-sources" monolithic kernel
>
> The Problem:
>
> Disk corruption which removes entire subdirectories, yielding unstable behavior
> Problem recurs every few months, unpredictably
>
> Other Data:
>
> I'm a long-time Gentoo user.  I have several other Gentoo systems and have NEVER had disk problems.  I don't think it's a driver-related problem.
> Does not seem to be heat-related since the errors don't seem to be triggered by extended operation
> All diagnostics are good (Dell internal diagnostics in ROM, Memtest-86, etc)
> FSCK can usually repair the damage
> Laptop is lightly used and rarely transported
>
> Diagnostic Work so Far:
>
> Swapped M.2 disk
> Ran Memtest-86 for hours
>
>
> Anybody got any ideas what may be happening and what I might be able to do about it?
>
> TIA!
>
> Casey
>
>
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