Michael Montone via plug on 19 Dec 2024 13:54:57 -0800


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Re: [PLUG] File System Corruption


I had a gremlin issue once, where the system was fine for months, as long as I did not reboot it.  The issue turned out to be a dying hard drive (spinner).  I copied the OS to a new hard drive, and never saw the gremlins again.

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> On Dec 19, 2024, at 4:47 PM, Keith C. Perry via plug <plug@lists.phillylinux.org> wrote:
> 
> Rich,
> 
> Right to repair is ***very*** important...
> 
> Point of clarity though, you're talking about https://frame.work/ , yes?
> 
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> Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2024 4:42:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [PLUG] File System Corruption
> 
> I know it doesn't help the current issue, but I just wanted to note
> that things like "memory is soldered to the motherboard" are precisely
> why I'm using Framework for my current laptops, and future ones,
> unless something changes.
> 
> Right to Repair is important.
> 
>> On Thu, Dec 19, 2024 at 3:33 PM Casey Bralla via plug
>> <plug@lists.phillylinux.org> wrote:
>> 
>> The logs didn't show anything that I could see.
>> Smartctl showed no errors, and it passed the diagnostics
>> <sigh>
>> 
>> I think Keith is correct that I've just got a flaky motherboard.  I'll probably replace it at some point in 2025.  Craig's list anyone?
>> 
>> 
>> On 12/19/24 9:53 AM, Keith C. Perry wrote:
>> 
>> I just had a similar issue with a workstation.  For 2 years, it would randomly crash or lock up.  It might happen once then not again for week, maybe month or it would happen every day, even multiple times a day, for a week.  There was no patten.
>> 
>> After a bios upgrade and multiple memory tests the only thing left was the motherboard and indeed that is what is was.  7 years is decent run for a laptop so it might be time to replace the hardware.
>> 
>> 
>> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
>> Keith C. Perry, MS E.E.
>> Managing Member, DAO Technologies LLC
>> (O) +1.215.525.4165 x2033
>> (M) +1.215.432.5167
>> www.daotechnologies.com
>> 
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>> Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2024 8:32:41 AM
>> Subject: [PLUG] File System Corruption
>> 
>> I've got an occasional catastrophic problem with a Dell Laptop, and I'm hoping someone on this list can steer me to a possible solution.
>> 
>> The system:
>> 
>> Dell E7250 laptop, circa 2017
>> i5 CPU
>> 8 GBytes RAM (soldered in place... not a DIMM)
>> 1 TByte M.2 SATA disk using ext4 file system
>> Gentoo stable with "gentoo-sources" monolithic kernel
>> 
>> The Problem:
>> 
>> Disk corruption which removes entire subdirectories, yielding unstable behavior
>> Problem recurs every few months, unpredictably
>> 
>> Other Data:
>> 
>> I'm a long-time Gentoo user.  I have several other Gentoo systems and have NEVER had disk problems.  I don't think it's a driver-related problem.
>> Does not seem to be heat-related since the errors don't seem to be triggered by extended operation
>> All diagnostics are good (Dell internal diagnostics in ROM, Memtest-86, etc)
>> FSCK can usually repair the damage
>> Laptop is lightly used and rarely transported
>> 
>> Diagnostic Work so Far:
>> 
>> Swapped M.2 disk
>> Ran Memtest-86 for hours
>> 
>> 
>> Anybody got any ideas what may be happening and what I might be able to do about it?
>> 
>> TIA!
>> 
>> Casey
>> 
>> 
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