Re: [PLUG] other browsers

[Rich Freeman via plug <plug@lists.phillylinux.org>]

Haven't heard of these, but lately I've been going down two roads.

For my primary browsers I'm using Librewolf on Desktop, and IronFox on 
Android.  Both are privacy-focused browsers with full support for 
uBlock/etc.  Note that Librewolf doesn't auto-update as is intended to 
be used with a package manager (eg any Linux or Chocolatey on Windows).

For things that require a chromium-based browser I'm currently using 
Brave on Desktop and Vanadium on Android.

I use floccus to sync bookmarks across all of these (they're stored in 
Nextcloud).

The thing that pushed me off of Chromium for normal use is the API 
changes that would kill uBlock.  There is a version that is compatible 
with the new API, but it is much less functional (which was probably a 
design goal with the API change).  My understanding is that more 
privacy-oriented browsers are trying to preserve the old API, but it 
remains to be seen how long that lasts once upstream chromium drops it 
and they're maintaining forks.  The performance drop with the mozilla 
engine is very annoying, but worth it for regular use.  I am mostly 
using chromium for sites that use webgl/etc and usually tracking 
cookies/etc aren't as much of an issue on those.

I used to be content to let Google run my life, but honestly things are 
trending such that I'm trying to reduce my dependencies there.  I'm now 
running GrapheneOS (though I still use some Google services, sandboxed), 
and using Nextcloud for just about everything but calendar/map 
(documents, contacts, bookmarks, photos).  I'm not entirely where I want 
to be but I'm taking my time with it.  If people want to chat about this 
topic in a meeting I'd be interested in it.  I was inspired a bit by a 
SELF talk a year ago.

Rich

On 8/26/2025 4:14 PM, jeffv via plug wrote:
> Just found this - Zen. It's FF with a major front end change. Vert 
> tabs- not my favorite. You might like it.
> https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2025/08/zen-browser-is-what-mozilla-firefox-should-be 
>
>
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> Min - just the minimum and very fast accordingly. Chromium-based. Not 
> too much in the way of security configuration.
> https://minbrowser.org/
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>
> Midori Next Generation: FF-based. Very fast.
> https://astian.org/midori-browser/
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