Re: [PLUG] other browsers

[givememahcert via plug <plug@lists.phillylinux.org>]

I have almost exactly the same setup as Rich, and it has worked really well.

Having extensions on Ironfox on Android has been nice too, although I used Vanadium 90% of the time. Graphene has been pretty easy to work with, although I did buy a refurbished pixel in order to run it as designed. 

The other browser I like is Mullvad Browser-- particularly for when I know sites do heavy tracking and fingerprinting. When you launch it, it will check for updates automatically too. 


On Wednesday, August 27th, 2025 at 2:45 PM, Rich Freeman via plug <plug@lists.phillylinux.org> wrote:

> 
> 
> Haven't heard of these, but lately I've been going down two roads.
> 
> For my primary browsers I'm using Librewolf on Desktop, and IronFox on
> Android. Both are privacy-focused browsers with full support for
> uBlock/etc. Note that Librewolf doesn't auto-update as is intended to
> be used with a package manager (eg any Linux or Chocolatey on Windows).
> 
> For things that require a chromium-based browser I'm currently using
> Brave on Desktop and Vanadium on Android.
> 
> I use floccus to sync bookmarks across all of these (they're stored in
> Nextcloud).
> 
> The thing that pushed me off of Chromium for normal use is the API
> changes that would kill uBlock. There is a version that is compatible
> with the new API, but it is much less functional (which was probably a
> design goal with the API change). My understanding is that more
> privacy-oriented browsers are trying to preserve the old API, but it
> remains to be seen how long that lasts once upstream chromium drops it
> and they're maintaining forks. The performance drop with the mozilla
> engine is very annoying, but worth it for regular use. I am mostly
> using chromium for sites that use webgl/etc and usually tracking
> cookies/etc aren't as much of an issue on those.
> 
> I used to be content to let Google run my life, but honestly things are
> trending such that I'm trying to reduce my dependencies there. I'm now
> running GrapheneOS (though I still use some Google services, sandboxed),
> and using Nextcloud for just about everything but calendar/map
> (documents, contacts, bookmarks, photos). I'm not entirely where I want
> to be but I'm taking my time with it. If people want to chat about this
> topic in a meeting I'd be interested in it. I was inspired a bit by a
> SELF talk a year ago.
> 
> Rich
> 
> On 8/26/2025 4:14 PM, jeffv via plug wrote:
> 
> > Just found this - Zen. It's FF with a major front end change. Vert
> > tabs- not my favorite. You might like it.
> > https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2025/08/zen-browser-is-what-mozilla-firefox-should-be
> > 
> > Min - just the minimum and very fast accordingly. Chromium-based. Not
> > too much in the way of security configuration.
> > https://minbrowser.org/
> > 
> > Midori Next Generation: FF-based. Very fast.
> > https://astian.org/midori-browser/
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