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Re: Philly Lambda Charter / Splintering, was Re: Scala in Philly?
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I would be interested in a Clojure group,
Scala frightens me.
Thanks,
Mike
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 11:10 PM, Trotter Cashion <cashion@gmail.com> wrote:
Bah! You're being too negative. Though you're likely right about there being a short spike in attendance at the beginning followed by a long term decline, that's not necessarily a bad thing. I remember back when nyc.rb was routinely 4-6 people per meeting, and it turned out that those people were wicked smart. A small group focused on such a young language can help each other grow and learn more about the language, prepping members with the knowledge to be leaders in a growing community as the language becomes popular.
Basically, you're right, no one should expect a Scala group to draw 20 people per meeting for its first year. I'm just not convinced that's a bad thing.
- Trotter
P.S. - Kyle, I'm totally down for a Clojure group. Maybe even more so than for a Scala group.
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 10:27 PM, paul santa clara <kesserich1@gmail.com> wrote:
It's not really any of my business what people do or don't do, so please feel free to completely disregard my opinion on the matter. Personally, though, I would caution against setting up a group that is narrowly focused on any one of the nascent jvm languages. As a general rule, the more esoteric and specific a group's charter, the lower it's attendance.
If we go down the line from largest to small communities we see plentiful options for java groups, at least two .net, ... , one ruby group that is largely sustained because of rails discussions, and almost no python presence. I suspect that a group devoted exclusively to either Clojure or Scala would see a short spike in attendance as people came to investigate it, followed by a sharp and permanent decline.
Sorry, if i'm sounding too negative on this matter. My intuition just tells me that all these topics are niche enough to fit under a single umbrella.
-Paul
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 8:55 PM, Dan Mead <d.w.mead@gmail.com> wrote:
Tldr: splintering bad, variety of meetings good
> Honestly, it just seemed that a group focused primarily on Scala didn't fit
> with Philly Lambda...For some reason, the group has been more focused on Lisp than anything else.
I just checked the meeting's page (yes, I just updated :) ) and there were 6 Lisp related meetings, and one on Scala. Not saying the group isn't interested in Scala, in fact,
I think it's quite the opposite. It's just in the past, people have offered to do more Lisp presentations. I definitely think Scala related talks would be very welcomed by the group members.
> what's going on with
> Philly Lambda, but I thought (perhaps erroneously) that trying to shoehor...After all, we had 6 Lisp meetings :)
A lot of people come to Philly Lambda for a break from the norm. I believe this is why the group has been focused on interesting and up-and-coming technologies. After the meetings when we go to a pub, the conversation is usually centered around FP.
However, I can definitely appreciate a more focused group.
Aaro
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