Vettese, Nick A on Tue, 8 Jun 1999 14:51:59 -0400 (EDT)


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RE: [Plug] Other considerations against splintering


Michael Leone:
   What you are trying to say is that the only way for people to learn
something is by keeping everyone together.  That way the collective has an
intelligence.  What about others who would like to learn, but are afraid of
the city, don't drive, don't have the time to trek back and forth to the
city, etc..  I work in the city, but I have a home life also.  I have
animals to feed and let out.  I have dinner to make.  plus the bus ride back
into the city is another 4.60 round trip.  And then I have to wait almost an
hour for the bus.  I refuse to drive in because of parking, I am almost to
my limit for the year on my car.  And you don't have to worry about the most
experience people being at one or the other, because as a group we can all
help each other.  We could create web Pages for the info and share.  Is
there a limit to what you can't do?  I feel as a group there should be
nothing that could stop us from helping each other.

I think that we should look into a SJ chapter of PLUG, cal it SPLUG??  The
SjPhilaLinuxUserGroup.  That way PLUG will still be the parent group, and we
could all report to PLUG.  We have one for KoP, Conshie, and CC.  I think in
that voting sheet you have your questions should revolve around offsite
groups so that we could all decide.

Lastly,  I was wondering how many people are from the Jersey area who are
interested in starting our own chapter of PLUG.  We could find a place
locally to the SJ members, and we could start next month.  Even if we meet
somewhere not permanant for now, but just to get introduced to each other.
you can email me @ navettese@delinvest.com
Thanks,
Nick

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Leone [mailto:turgon@pil.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 1999 2:03 PM
To: plug@lists.nothinbut.net
Subject: RE: [Plug] Other considerations against splintering


At 12:38 PM 6/8/99 -0400, Vettese, Nick A" <NAVETTESE@delinvest.com>
 wrote:
>topic, and not running scattered.  I look at it like this.  You have a
>University/Collge.  Their main campus is in Philadelphia.  Now lets say for
>example, that people in another part of the city want to go there, but they
>do nat have the time or resources to go.  So the college/Univ.  opens a
>campus here and there.  Does this mean because people are going to the
>offsite building, and not the onsite campus, does it mean death for the
>college?  NO!!!  Does it mean that one area is better than another?  NO!!!

If (for example) half of the brightest, most resourceful and helpful folks
are at the offsite location, then neither location is as proficient as they
had been when everyone was together in 1 location. 

If I have a problem in ... configuring firewalls, to pick an example ...
and I'm in the CC group, and the person with the most experience and best
abilities to share their knowledge doesn't come to my meetings, but is
instead at one of the offsite areas, then I haven't received the level of
help I could have gotten from the group, nor would this person have been as
useful to others as he/she/they might have been.

How about the inherent difficulties in sharing info? The most detailed
notes on a meeting are no substitute for being there, asking questions,
perhaps gaining insight from fellow members.

Email/newsgroup postings/web page hilights are a poor second to physical
contact/discussion/questions in matters such as this. 


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