Scott R. Myers on Fri, 20 Aug 1999 02:48:28 -0400 (EDT)


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RE: [Plug] Trouble starting X remotely


I actually have goamerica.net as a wireless provider for $60 a month and I
use my Palm III with the newer/smaller Novatel modem.  I use the SSH app for
palm to access my boxes remotely.

In my opinion it's a novel solution at first but dealing with Graffitti to
get around and the lack of good curses support for the SSH client code for
palm makes it a bit of a pain.

I'm actually switching everything over to a subnote computer (Mitsubishi
Amity CN2) with the new Novatelwireless Type II CDPD modem running Linux.
That will give me the portability/a real OS/and remote management capability
back to my boxes.

My 2 cents!

srm

-----Original Message-----
From: plug-admin@lists.nothinbut.net
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Sent: Thursday, August 19, 1999 3:46 PM
To: plug@lists.nothinbut.net
Subject: Re: [Plug] Trouble starting X remotely


I tried out wireless novatel CDPD modem about a year ago. Wireless service
from bell atlantic (http://www.bam.com/wireless/internet1.htm). Didnt like
it... the idea of telneting into your linux box wirelessly with a palmIII
is cool but it is cumbersome. telnet is not a good application to use for
garfitti. the modem is bigger than the PalmII itself and awkard in my
pocket. Now if they shrink and integrated the modem like the PalmVII, it
would be great but the palmVII is not direct internet connection... i
think its more like a pager and you'll have to use some proprietary
service from 3com.

On Thu, 19 Aug 1999, Daniel W. Ottey wrote:
> Interesting...  You mena like a portable "dumb terminal" ?  I guess if it
> had a cellular/satelite modem, that would be pretty cool.  The actual
> machine probably wouldn't be too expensive.  Would probably be even
> cheaper than a 386 laptop.  Somehow you would have to get it Internet
> access, but it wouldn't need to be VERY fast, since its only relaying
> text.  Thats an interesting idea.  I like it!  (I could telnet into my box
> from anywhere I was and check my email...  whoo!)
>
> Daniel W. Ottey
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>
> On Thu, 19 Aug 1999, Nick R wrote:
>
> > You know what I've always thought somebody should make (and by always, I
> > mean for the past few months or less)? I think it would be cool to have
a
> > little portable telnet client. Just something simple w/ a fairly small
> > screen that could do telnet logins. It would be better than a PDA. The
> > problem is that the connection could be expensive and the density of
people
> > who would have Unix boxes to connect to would only be great enough in
> > Silicon Valley, but it's a cool idea I think.
> >
> >
> > >From: Joshua Mazess <mazessj@op.net>
> > >Reply-To: plug@lists.nothinbut.net
> > >To: plug@lists.nothinbut.net
> > >Subject: Re: [Plug] Trouble starting X remotely
> > >Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 08:32:41 -0400
> > >
> > >Most telnet clients display text only, no graphics. They are too "thin"
to
> > >do
> > >anything more complicated than that. Some do ReGIS, but I doubt that
can
> > >handle
> > >high resolution and many colors. You need an X server for any system
that
> > >you
> > >want to act as an I/O terminal. So, you would need an X server for
Win95
> > >and
> > >then you could run your X clients from Linux and direct I/O to the
Win95
> > >box by
> > >setting the DISPLAY environment variable (or by specifying on the
command
> > >line
> > >of the X client). --Josh
> > >
> > >Michael Leone wrote:
> > >
> > > > I have a machine running Slackware 3.4 (kernel 2.0.34) as an
intranet
> > >web
> > > > server, email server, etc, on my LAN - all the good stuff that Linux
> > >does
> > > > so well and silently. :-)
> > > >
> > > > Anyway - I have X installed on this server. If I startx from the
server
> > > > console, everything comes up just as it should. Life is good.
> > > >
> > > > If I telnet in (from a Win95 station), and (following the example in
_A
> > > > Practical Guide to Linux_, the only book I have handy here at work)
do a
> > > > echo $DISPLAY (to get the contents of the DISPLAY environmental
variable
> > >to
> > > > pass to X), I get a blank - not the ":0.0" example in the book.
> > > >
> > > > So, when I startx from the telnet session, X starts over on the
server
> > > > console.
> > > > And I have to go over to the server and stop X. Life is bad.
> > > >
> > > > 1. What am I doing wrong? I want the X to show in my telnet window
on my
> > > > workstation, not on the server. How can I pass X the info to show up
> > >here
> > > > rather than there?
> > > > 2. Does the server have to already be running X?
> > > >
> > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------
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ask
> > > > me. Even if I don't know the answer, I'll make something up and
you'll
> > > > believe me."-Unknown
> >
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