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Re: [Plug] Pro Unix Colleges
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My mistake on the server thing (I was horribly misinformed by a prof there),
but Drexel is still far too Macish for my tastes. I wasn't exactly too happy
w/ the computer courses they offer.
-Laktar, a.k.a. Nick Rosen, laktar.dyndns.org
If I Ever Became An Evil Overlord:
61. If my advisors ask "Why are you risking everything on such a mad
scheme?",
I will not proceed until I have a response that satisfies them.
-- Peter's Evil Overlord List,
http://www.eviloverlord.com/lists/overlord.html
From: umweber@mcs.drexel.edu
Reply-To: plug@lists.nothinbut.net
To: plug@lists.nothinbut.net
Subject: Re: [Plug] Pro Unix Colleges
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 22:35:44 -0400 (EDT)
Um, well, they've actually switched over to Windows machines as being
the "official" computers now instead of Macs, maybe 2 years ago you had to
buy a mac. And most of the korman center has new NT machines, every day I
see a big truck stop by and drop off DELL boxes. Everyone in the school
gets a shell account, on what I believe is a Sun Enterprise 3000, and also
they have some other big machine for the mail server. If you get into the
math/compsci department, you get another shell account, on only a Sun
Enterprise 450, but there are usually at max 30 people on there during the
day, and it's got 4 Ultrasparc II processors, and about a gig of ram,
running Solaris 7 (Sorry I had to brag here I was really excited when they
upgraded that machine), oh yeah, no quota on this box either :) and the
mcs lab has more Sun Ultra 1's than the DELL's running NT and the old macs
combined. (Also I think there are some new Ultra 5's and DELL's waiting to
be set up in the closet, as of last term) Though alot of the school is
still on macs unfortunately because in 1981 when they decided to make
everyone get a computer, apple was really the only option.
As for the classes, there is actually really only one UNIX class,
in the CS dept which is a tad too easy for people who already know unix,
but at least I picked up some stuff I wouldn't have learned on my own
(sed, awk, scheme, tex, etc) And the textbook for the class was ORA's Unix
in a nutshell. (And a C/C++ reference book)
Most of the other CS classes are not geared towards unix, or mac, or
windows. Since you have a choice of windows or mac "officially" they
can't gear it towards one or the other, so you actually learn things that
will work on all platforms. Most profs don't care wether you use
Metrowerks CodeWarrior (The recommended compiler because it works on both
Windows and Mac), MS Visual C++, or gcc/g++, as long as your assignments
actually compile on the compiler you've specified. Many of the profs, and
students use unix/linux on their personal machines, and they only thing
you ever needed mac or windows for before was to use Filemaker Pro
software for the coops, but that's been moved over to a web based
interface, so nothing really requires you to have Windows or MacOS
anymore.
Now, I'm not saying Drexel is the place you wanna go to, I just had to
defend my school because your statements below are horribly untrue.
--
Michelle Weber
umweber@mcs.drexel.edu
On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, Nick R wrote:
> Ack! You've gotta be kidding! They're still using Apple servers & like
1/2
> of Korman Ctr is still Macs. That's even worse than M$ OSes.
>
> -Laktar, a.k.a. Nick Rosen, laktar.dyndns.org
>
>
> If I Ever Became An Evil Overlord:
> 99. Any data file of crucial importance will be padded to 1.45Mb in
size.
> -- Peter's Evil Overlord List,
> http://www.eviloverlord.com/lists/overlord.html
>
>
> >From: "Brent R. Matzelle" <bmatzelle@yahoo.com>
> >Reply-To: plug@lists.nothinbut.net
> >To: plug@lists.nothinbut.net
> >Subject: Re: [Plug] Pro Unix Colleges
> >Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 20:42:50 -0400
> >
> >I believe that Drexel U. might fit your bill.
> >
> >On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, you wrote:
> > > I'm looking into a college to go to. I want a place that has good
> >Linux/Unix
> > > courses and good computer courses in general. Also a healthy
nerd/geek
> > > population hopefully w/ a little freak/goth thrown in for good
measure.
> >So
> > > can anybody recommend some places or at least a good idea on how to
find
> > > out? I can just imagine the clueless puzzled look on some admissions
> > > person's face as I ask about Linux use. heheh
> > >
> > > -Laktar, a.k.a. Nick Rosen, laktar.dyndns.org
> > >
> > >
> > > If I Ever Became An Evil Overlord:
> > > 37. If my trusted lieutenant tells me my Legions of Terror are
losing a
> > > battle, I will believe him. After all, he's my trusted lieutenant.
> > > -- Peter's Evil Overlord List,
> > > http://www.eviloverlord.com/lists/overlord.html
> > >
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