Aarune J. Oracle on Tue, 28 Sep 1999 23:16:05 -0400 (EDT) |
Ummmm dude, Mac is going UNIX, OS 10 is a MAC interface on a UNIX kernel, BSD actually. This is the first Mac with a cammand prompt since the time of Oregon Trail. Dont give up an Mac just yet, it may be back on the uptake, or atleast a boost for Linux :) -- -Rune Time is Irrelevant to the worlds beyond this godforsaken place unto which it destroys all. -Aarune J. Oracle "In the depths of a mind insane fantasy and reality are the same" -Slayer. On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, Nick R wrote: :Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 19:45:43 PDT :From: Nick R <laktar@hotmail.com> :Reply-To: plug@lists.nothinbut.net :To: plug@lists.nothinbut.net :Subject: Re: [Plug] Pro Unix Colleges : :My mistake on the server thing (I was horribly misinformed by a prof there), :but Drexel is still far too Macish for my tastes. I wasn't exactly too happy :w/ the computer courses they offer. : : -Laktar, a.k.a. Nick Rosen, laktar.dyndns.org : : :If I Ever Became An Evil Overlord: :61. If my advisors ask "Why are you risking everything on such a mad :scheme?", :I will not proceed until I have a response that satisfies them. : -- Peter's Evil Overlord List, :http://www.eviloverlord.com/lists/overlord.html : : :>From: umweber@mcs.drexel.edu :>Reply-To: plug@lists.nothinbut.net :>To: plug@lists.nothinbut.net :>Subject: Re: [Plug] Pro Unix Colleges :>Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 22:35:44 -0400 (EDT) :> :> Um, well, they've actually switched over to Windows machines as being :>the "official" computers now instead of Macs, maybe 2 years ago you had to :>buy a mac. And most of the korman center has new NT machines, every day I :>see a big truck stop by and drop off DELL boxes. Everyone in the school :>gets a shell account, on what I believe is a Sun Enterprise 3000, and also :>they have some other big machine for the mail server. If you get into the :>math/compsci department, you get another shell account, on only a Sun :>Enterprise 450, but there are usually at max 30 people on there during the :>day, and it's got 4 Ultrasparc II processors, and about a gig of ram, :>running Solaris 7 (Sorry I had to brag here I was really excited when they :>upgraded that machine), oh yeah, no quota on this box either :) and the :>mcs lab has more Sun Ultra 1's than the DELL's running NT and the old macs :>combined. (Also I think there are some new Ultra 5's and DELL's waiting to :>be set up in the closet, as of last term) Though alot of the school is :>still on macs unfortunately because in 1981 when they decided to make :>everyone get a computer, apple was really the only option. :> As for the classes, there is actually really only one UNIX class, :>in the CS dept which is a tad too easy for people who already know unix, :>but at least I picked up some stuff I wouldn't have learned on my own :>(sed, awk, scheme, tex, etc) And the textbook for the class was ORA's Unix :>in a nutshell. (And a C/C++ reference book) :> Most of the other CS classes are not geared towards unix, or mac, or :>windows. Since you have a choice of windows or mac "officially" they :>can't gear it towards one or the other, so you actually learn things that :>will work on all platforms. Most profs don't care wether you use :>Metrowerks CodeWarrior (The recommended compiler because it works on both :>Windows and Mac), MS Visual C++, or gcc/g++, as long as your assignments :>actually compile on the compiler you've specified. Many of the profs, and :>students use unix/linux on their personal machines, and they only thing :>you ever needed mac or windows for before was to use Filemaker Pro :>software for the coops, but that's been moved over to a web based :>interface, so nothing really requires you to have Windows or MacOS :>anymore. :> Now, I'm not saying Drexel is the place you wanna go to, I just had to :>defend my school because your statements below are horribly untrue. :> :> :>-- :>Michelle Weber :>umweber@mcs.drexel.edu :> :> :>On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, Nick R wrote: :> :> > Ack! You've gotta be kidding! They're still using Apple servers & like :>1/2 :> > of Korman Ctr is still Macs. That's even worse than M$ OSes. :> > :> > -Laktar, a.k.a. Nick Rosen, laktar.dyndns.org :> > :> > :> > If I Ever Became An Evil Overlord: :> > 99. Any data file of crucial importance will be padded to 1.45Mb in :>size. :> > -- Peter's Evil Overlord List, :> > http://www.eviloverlord.com/lists/overlord.html :> > :> > :> > >From: "Brent R. Matzelle" <bmatzelle@yahoo.com> :> > >Reply-To: plug@lists.nothinbut.net :> > >To: plug@lists.nothinbut.net :> > >Subject: Re: [Plug] Pro Unix Colleges :> > >Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 20:42:50 -0400 :> > > :> > >I believe that Drexel U. might fit your bill. :> > > :> > >On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, you wrote: :> > > > I'm looking into a college to go to. I want a place that has good :> > >Linux/Unix :> > > > courses and good computer courses in general. Also a healthy :>nerd/geek :> > > > population hopefully w/ a little freak/goth thrown in for good :>measure. :> > >So :> > > > can anybody recommend some places or at least a good idea on how to :>find :> > > > out? I can just imagine the clueless puzzled look on some admissions :> > > > person's face as I ask about Linux use. heheh :> > > > :> > > > -Laktar, a.k.a. Nick Rosen, laktar.dyndns.org :> > > > :> > > > :> > > > If I Ever Became An Evil Overlord: :> > > > 37. If my trusted lieutenant tells me my Legions of Terror are :>losing a :> > > > battle, I will believe him. After all, he's my trusted lieutenant. :> > > > -- Peter's Evil Overlord List, :> > > > http://www.eviloverlord.com/lists/overlord.html :> > > > :> > > > ______________________________________________________ :> > > > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com :> > > > :> > > > _______________________________________________ :> > > > Plug maillist - Plug@lists.nothinbut.net :> > > > http://lists.nothinbut.net/mail/listinfo/plug :> > >-- :> > >Brent R. 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