Sibylla C. Cressy on Tue, 26 Oct 1999 21:40:57 -0400 (EDT)


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Re: [Plug] telnetting around a firewall - non-technical considerations


Michael:  You gave our young friend some very good advise.  DON'T DO IT
IF IT IS AGAINST THE SCHOOL RULES.  i remember a college professor
telling a class I was in, to think about breaking the rules, because you
may grow up to desire a big position in government, business, etc.  Look
at George W. to see how they are talking about his alleged drug use.  He
was college age if I have the story straight; now he wants to be
president of the U.S.  So, doing something when you are young and
stupid, may result 30 years from now, as a boomerang you didn't expect,
IMHO.

BILLIE (retired H.S. teacher)







MicMichael Leone wrote:
> 
> At 09:48 AM 10/26/99 PDT, you wrote:
> >At the high school I go to, they've locked telnet out. That's why I want to
> >get around it. They'll never find out and I don't think I'm technically
> >breaking any rules if I do it w/ a java applet or something.
> 
> Well, since they have a rule that you can't telnet out, and if you do
> telnet out (regardless of whether it's via a java applet or tunneled or
> other method used), I'd say there was no "technically about it"; you are
> breaking the rules. They said you can't do that from their equipment;
> you're trying to do it anyway.
> 
> Earlier, you had said there was no good reason for them to lock out telnet.
> Maybe they have reasons you don't know about. Maybe they're worried that
> someone may do something rude via telnet from their systems (after all, if
> you telnet into someone else's system, you are IN someone else's system,
> and might be able to exploit some vulnerability that the managers of the
> other system may not be aware of);  and that your school may be liable.
> 
> Whether you do telnet out or not is your business; not being involved, it's
> not really my concern. Hell, I've done all kinds of things I'm not supposed
> to. :-) Just be aware of what you're really doing, and of any consequences
> if they do catch you (I wouldn't rule out loss of priveleges, or even
> suspension; you might be surprised at how seriously a school would come
> down on someone who's hacked their systems).
> 
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