Re: [Plug] telnetting around a firewall - non-technical considerations

[adam <adam@Looney.com>]

Of course, this is a bad example, because how much is it really affecting ole
georgie?
not to be political and off topic, but the site www.gwbush.com has
some great letters from people, in prison, who did what
georgie did, and were put away for it.


"Sibylla C. Cressy" wrote:

> Michael:  You gave our young friend some very good advise.  DON'T DO IT
> IF IT IS AGAINST THE SCHOOL RULES.  i remember a college professor
> telling a class I was in, to think about breaking the rules, because you
> may grow up to desire a big position in government, business, etc.  Look
> at George W. to see how they are talking about his alleged drug use.  He
> was college age if I have the story straight; now he wants to be
> president of the U.S.  So, doing something when you are young and
> stupid, may result 30 years from now, as a boomerang you didn't expect,
> IMHO.
>
> BILLIE (retired H.S. teacher)
>
> MicMichael Leone wrote:
> >
> > At 09:48 AM 10/26/99 PDT, you wrote:
> > >At the high school I go to, they've locked telnet out. That's why I want to
> > >get around it. They'll never find out and I don't think I'm technically
> > >breaking any rules if I do it w/ a java applet or something.
> >
> > Well, since they have a rule that you can't telnet out, and if you do
> > telnet out (regardless of whether it's via a java applet or tunneled or
> > other method used), I'd say there was no "technically about it"; you are
> > breaking the rules. They said you can't do that from their equipment;
> > you're trying to do it anyway.
> >
> > Earlier, you had said there was no good reason for them to lock out telnet.
> > Maybe they have reasons you don't know about. Maybe they're worried that
> > someone may do something rude via telnet from their systems (after all, if
> > you telnet into someone else's system, you are IN someone else's system,
> > and might be able to exploit some vulnerability that the managers of the
> > other system may not be aware of);  and that your school may be liable.
> >
> > Whether you do telnet out or not is your business; not being involved, it's
> > not really my concern. Hell, I've done all kinds of things I'm not supposed
> > to. :-) Just be aware of what you're really doing, and of any consequences
> > if they do catch you (I wouldn't rule out loss of priveleges, or even
> > suspension; you might be surprised at how seriously a school would come
> > down on someone who's hacked their systems).
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------
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> > me. Even if I don't know the answer, I'll make something up and you'll
> > believe me."-Unknown
> >
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