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Re: apt (was: Re: [Plug] redhat 6.1 insllation)
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On Mon, 3 Jan 2000, Mental wrote:
> It will work. It does work.
How? I'm not questioning whether it works or not.
> The package1 package2 package3 names have nothing
> do do with the filename. Its the same thing as rpmfind, only better. The problem
> with RH packages has always been managing them. rpm is fine, but before you defend
> it, at least try apt. Package managment under solaris is fine too. I'd probably say
> rpm is a little nicer.
I'm sorry, I don't think I'm required to try apt-get. RPM works very
well. The problem with package management comes in when someone decides
that they don't like the arragement of a standard set of packages,
repackages them and then works off of them.
> With apt-get the packages you get are part of the distro. With rpm find, you
> get what you get. I've already blown up gtk+ sever times trying to use rpmfind.
> The person who built the rpms didnt keep the same layout as the person who built
> the original rpm. The prefix was moved from /usr to /usr/X11R6. This may seem trivial,
> but it broke gtk themes. This is the problem with 3rd party updates.
That's a problem with the third parties and the distribution, not the
package management tool. While Debian has an inclusive philosophy, Red
Hat doesn't. Personally, I don't think Red Hat could afford to adopt that
philosophy, either. Care must always be used when going to a third party
package (not paranoia, just care).
> The cool part about debian is the number of packages out there. Setting up a new server?
> apt-get install ssh2 apache apache-ssl
> I did this saturday. It went out and got the incedental packages apache needed for ssl and
> whatnot. All I had to do was answer the config questions and go about my business. It
> was _very_ nice. I used redhat for a long time. It works. But I'll second the assertion
> that debian has a nicer package management system.
It may, but I like Red Hat better as a distribution. While I haven't
actually used Debian, I have looked into with a possibility of moving over
to it, but I kept running into a "hacker" feel. Red Hat has more of a
functional feel, to me. Please don't argue this point with me. It's a
matter of personal preference and personal perception. Given that I'm
using an RPM-based system, using apt-get isn't a real viable option.
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