Noah silva on Wed, 24 Apr 2002 16:13:13 -0400


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Re: [PLUG] PLUG Wireless/ Co-op?


Most ISPs say that you can't transport your internet connection to any
other buildings.  I suppose the 802.11b may not really be to another
building.  I also have speakeasy, also because their terms of service
are... better than most other places.  I don't know how happy they'd be if
they found out I was sharing the connection with my 500 closest
friends.  OTOH, I don't know why some of these places get so bent out of
shape, like the cable modem places and their "Thou shalt haveth only one
computer on thine cable modem".  They think one IP = one computer, and you
should have to pay per computer.  It really reminds me of the cable
companies trying to charge you per TV, until they got smacked
down... didn't they learn the first time?  The other thing I don't get is
why they are worried in the first place.  I can EASILY take up all the
bandwidth with one computer, or I might have four connected, and barely
use it at all.

As it is, there are times that our bandwidth is topped out for extended
periods (email, dns, personal sites, commercial sites, and OpenOffice.org
download hosting)

 -- noah silva 

On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, gabriel rosenkoetter wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 24, 2002 at 03:30:31PM -0400, Noah silva wrote:
> > Also if you allow internet traffic, you have to get an ISP to agree to it.
> 
> Nah, you just have to NAT it. Presuming you've got a reasonable ISP.
> (You will, of course, be held accountable for anything that happens
> from behind your publicly-routed IP addrs.)
> 
> You'd probably want to put a WEP key on the base station (not for
> encryption, just for authentication, since it doesn't so much work
> for encryption anyway), which you'd give out freely. Just so you
> know how many people are involved, at least. (Especially if you're
> pooling money for the connection.)
> 
> > for the record though, I wouldn't mind setting one up (or allowing use of
> > my ricochet "network", for anyone who has time to set up STARnet).
> 
> Also, fwiw, anyone who wants it can probably get an 802.11[B, if
> you're really close] signal in the vicinity of the Swarthmore R3
> station off of my wireless hub, if you want it. (There's no WEP key
> now, but I'll notice if anyone's really leeching bandwidth and put
> one on.)
> 
> If someone were interested in using my (crappy, low-range, so you
> probably aren't) base station as their real Internet access, I guess
> I'd sort of rather you get in touch with me and we work out
> something such that I pay Speakeasy more money and your kick back
> for some reasonable portion of that. I'd have no problem doing that
> (nor would Speakeasy).
> 
> -- 
> gabriel rosenkoetter
> gr@eclipsed.net
> 


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