George Langford, Sc.D. on Thu, 2 May 2002 18:34:15 -0400


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[PLUG] Re Newbie's first question - chose to install HD temporarily ?


Hello fellow PLUGgers !

OK; after many helpful suggestions as to how I might transfer data 
files from [two] soon-to-be-retired W9[5 & 8] PC's, I decided to
move the drives one at a time to the Linux box, configure them as
slaves (instead of the CDWriter) and then copy the data to the 40GB
drive in the Linux box.  I'm not yet ready to Samba with Suse ...

Physical installation was easy, so long as one doesn't have to put
the cover back on the Linux PC, and I learned that a simple reboot
from the Linux boot floppy would result in Linux autodetecting the
new IDE device just fine, including its partitions and their 
structures, which I wrote down.

The next step is a mystery - I cannot find any means of mounting
the new drive.  There is no hint of it in fstab, even after rebooting
with and without the boot floppy.  I tried looking at the files,
/dev/hdb, /dev/hdb[1 thru 8], and so on, but I get nasty messages
from the KDE file manager that suggest that Linux hasn't worked out
which file system is which.  

However, I did find one webpage which gives a how-to for doing so.
It's at: http://www.linuxdot.org/cgi-bin/nlm.cgi?page=mount
where it says to edit the fstab file.

Original fstab:

/dev/hda7             /                       ext3    defaults        1
1
/dev/hda5             /boot                   ext3    defaults        1
2
none                  /dev/pts                devpts  gid=5,mode=620  0
0
/dev/hda8             /home                   ext3    defaults        1
2
none                  /proc                   proc    defaults        0
0
none                  /dev/shm                tmpfs   defaults        0
0
/dev/hda1              /vol1                   ext3    defaults        1
2
/dev/hda9              /vol2                   ext3    defaults        1
2
/dev/hda6               swap                    swap    defaults       
0 0
/dev/fd0                /mnt/floppy             auto   
noauto,owner,kudzu 0 0

Here's what I suggest I add to that file:

/dev/hdb1		/?			FAT	?		? ?
/dev/hdb3		/?			FAT	?		? ?
/dev/hdb2		/?			FAT	?		? ?
/dev/hdb4		/?			Extended ?		? ?
/dev/hdb7		/?			ext 2	?		? ?
/dev/hdb6		/?			ext 2	?		? ?
/dev/hdb5		/?			linux swap ?		? ?
/dev/hdb8		/?			FAT	?		? ?

Note_1 ................./vol3, 4, 5, etc. ?              ?
Note_2 ...............................................Whazzis 		? ?
Note_3
..............................................................What are
these

Except that I'm mystified by the meaning of the ?'d entries.

The above reference at linuxdot.org lists the entries thusly:

  ^                      ^                       ^       ^             
^ ^
device               mount_point         filesystem_type
                                                    mount_options    
dump
                                                                       
check

I'm guessing that I should use "vol3, vol4, vol5," etc. for the
mount_point
entries, "defaults" for my mount_options entries, and 0 0 for the last
two
entries in each line.  I'm also guessing that I should create several
new
subdirectories under my /home/user0/ directory into which I can copy the
data from vol's 3 through 8, not all of which have anything useful in
them, as the result of using Partition Magic and System Commander some
time in the distant past in a semi-successful attempt to run multiple
OS's.  Those 0 0's at the end of each line of fstab are the most
worrysome ...

Remembering that all's I want to do is rescue some [voluminous] data and
not put any MS product into the Linux PC, I'd like some advice on how to
set up the visiting disk so it doesn't get altered and yet I can copy
files
and directory structure from it to the permanent hard drive in the Linux
PC.  That "dump" entry sounds particularly ominous.  I sure don't want
the
intruding disk to get reformatted or erased !

I wuz kinda hoping that Linux would have the good sense to sense and
recognize
the various partitions, their file systems, their sizes, and so on, and
then
to place that info in a file which could be translated automatically
into
a new fstab.  Linux did half the job admirably by telling me all about
my
file systems on the visiting hard drive, but none of that information
has
found its way into fstab or into the various /dev/hdb* files, none of
which
can yet be read by any of the available text editors.

Oh yeah.  Who's kudzu ?  As in:
/dev/fd0                /mnt/floppy             auto   
noauto,owner,kudzu 0 0

Thanks for your continuing patience & help.

One more thing.  Yes, I'm gonna shut down the Linux PC for a cooling off
period after sending this E-mail, as it's gettin' kinda warm in places
with the Power supply dangling over the edge of the table ...

Best regards,
George
amenex@amenex.com
http://www.amenex.com/
http://www.georgesbasement.com/


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