Christian Hedemark on Wed, 5 Feb 2003 15:26:03 -0500


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RE: [PLUG] videocam


This is a dead end.

Optical media doesn't write fast enough, nor does it have the necessary
capacity to warrant such a paradigm shift.  I also suspect that they
won't hold up to field use (witness the CD player that skips when you
drive on a bumpy road beyond what the oversampling can compensate for).

Ultimately I think removable magnetic storage is the future for digital
video, but not until prices come down enough to compete with tape.  That
alone may preclude this from ever happening.  Tape is CHEAP.  Lucas is
pushing hard for direct to HDD cameras.  The HDD's need to be removable,
though.  This is a MUST.  You need to be able to change media quickly
during a shoot.  There are also some environmental issues that need
addressing (i.e. it needs to be ruggedized).

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul [mailto:paul@dpagin.net] 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 3:20 PM
> To: plug@lists.phillylinux.org
> Subject: Re: [PLUG] videocam
> 
> 
>    Hey, I saw a camera that writes directly to an optical disc!
> 
> 
> >>To tape
> >>    
> >>
> >More expensive over time than just going straight to disk, since you 
> >want it on disk to edit anyway and tape media degrades far 
> faster than 
> >hard drives.
> >  
> >
> It's OK if the tape degrades as long as the player can still tell the 
> difference between a 0 and a 1.  Since the data is digital the image 
> shouldn't degrade.  Before then you can transfer the data to a hard 
> drive, CD, or DVD.
> 
> >>or camera memory,
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >They don't make memory that big yet.
> >
> >If Chris Hedemark's 40 GB hard drive is too small for it, 
> how could a 
> >couple gigs of memory be enough? (Unless you mean flash memory, in 
> >which case the answer is that it's too slow. EEPROM writes 
> slower than 
> >disk writes slower than RAM.)
> >
> In the case of camera memory I was thinking of digital stills.
> 
> 
> >>or to the hard drive individually.
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >That'd be fine if you only had one running at a time, but if you're 
> >filming something live (like, say, a wedding), you probably want to 
> >cover a couple of angles at all times and splice it together later.
> >
> In that case using the cameras' built-in recording medium is 
> safer.  The 
> more connections and components used the less reliable the equipment 
> will be.  You only get one shot...do not miss your change to 
> record...this opportunity comes once in a lifetime. (Hey, that sounds 
> familiar.)
> 
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