Craig Brennan on Fri, 11 Jul 2003 12:00:32 -0400


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Re: [PLUG] Community Service Project (Devil's


What does it matter.  With Windows, you think they're going to understand
the registry or DOS or the script debugger?
--- kmhryhpdblyx@spammotel.com wrote:
> advocate)
> 
> I can't believe you guys are debating giving C or Perl to low-income 
> elementary school students.  These are kids who are probably not even 
> reading at their proper grade level.  I bet that a good bunch of these
> kids 
> won't even be able to read the man pages for some of these packages, let
> 
> alone put them to use.
> 
> IMHO, they need simple software that helps them learn and doesn't get in
> 
> their way.  A web browser, a simple word processor, chat client, simple 
> email, educational games.  Some good examples have already been 
> mentioned.  There might be more at the K12-Linux project home page.
> 
> I don't think it's kind to give a poor person something that will either
> 
> cost them money to maintain (license upgrades) or provoke them into 
> breaking the law (SW pirate).  Free software seems to be the most-moral
> way 
> to go in this type of endeavor.   Second graders shouldn't be worrying 
> about the job prospects of one OS or another.  They need to learn how to
> 
> read, type, surf, search, and to use the computer (any computer) as a
> tool.
> 
> 
> At 10:31 AM 7/11/2003 -0400, you wrote:
> >Most of the kids will say they want games, and cool chat software. Some
> >may want programming stuff, if they're incipient geeks. The parents
> will
> >want more than that for the kids.
> >
> >That's been my experience with the younger (< 12 or so) crowd, anyway.
> >
> > > Linux:
> > >   Pre-installed with:
> > >     - web browser (value $0)
> > >     - full office suite(s) (value $300?)
> > >     - programming languages (value $500?)
> >
> >Well, there is a free version of C for Windows, I believe. Ditto for
> perl,
> >python, etc.
> >
> > >     - web page editor(s) (value $79.95?)
> >
> >Front Page Express on Windows is a web editor, and is free. And web
> pages
> >can be edited using open Office these days, I believe.
> >
> > >     - image/graphics software (Gimp) (value $200?)
> >
> >Gimp is available for Windows, and is free.
> 
> --
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