gabriel rosenkoetter on Mon, 14 Jul 2003 07:16:07 -0400


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Re: [PLUG] [OT] xmacppc, netbsd 1.6.1, ppc8500


On Sun, Jul 13, 2003 at 07:20:03PM -0400, Fred K Ollinger wrote:
> > I'd be interested to see what your /usr/X11R6/bin/X is...
> It's symlinked to XFree86.

That's very weird.

> I do not see Xmacppc anywhere in the directory /usr/X11R6/bin/. Maybe they
> moved it out of 1.6.1? Or should XFree86 work on this machine. It does not
> work for me.

The last I heard, XFree86 didn't have a prayer of working on any
Apple video chipset. I would be (pleasantly) surprised if that had
changed. I would be shocked to hear that NetBSD shipped XF86 for a
port where the default video chipset in the staggeringly larger
number of systems out there is not supported by XF86. (But it's
looking like that's what happened...)

Have you asked port-macppc@netbsd.org about this?

> I see. What I really want is for X to work with the current hardware,
> though I do have a spare video card. Whatever would be easier.

Xmacppc works just fine with my current hardware. But I don't use
anything fancy, nor do I expect blazing X performance. (Where I want
that, I've bought a video card very carefully that's supported by
XF86 4.)

> Anyway, thanks for the help. At this point I'm still stuck, though.

My apologies. I'm not an official representative of NetBSD, and I
certainly don't have anything to do with merging XF86. Have you sent
mail to any of the NetBSD mailing lists about this?

> Basically, I'm curious if Xmacppc is part of XFree86 or should there be a
> separate binary? I reinstalled and I installed every single base package
> including X. It is possible that I am missing something here.

It didn't use to be. NetBSD used to ship an internally maintained
X server for macppc, and that's what Xmacppc was. (There's also an
Xmac68k, Xsun, and so forth.)

I just grabbed the macppc xserver.tgz tarball from 1.6.1, and I
see that seems to contain XFree86 4. Curious. Especially since
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers doesn't look like it contains anything
to cover Apple video chipsets... unless that's what chips_drv.o is
supposed to be.

What does /usr/X11R6/bin/xf86cfg do on your system?

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gabriel rosenkoetter
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