Douglas Johnson on Sat, 27 Sep 2003 18:29:05 -0400

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[PLUG] Microsoft's competition

I was going through my company's 'Microsoft for partners action pack subscription'
CD pile yesterday and I noticed that of the three sales type CD's one was devoted
entirely to competing with Linux (no mention of BSD which proves exactly how well 
they know their competition (or not)). I thought someone might enjoy that.

On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 16:52:50 -0400
gabriel rosenkoetter <> wrote:

> On Fri, Sep 12, 2003 at 04:17:08PM -0400, W. Chris Shank wrote:
> > I have a client who has solaris 7 on sparc Ultra5's. The question came
> > up as to moving them to linux, solaris 8 or leaving as solaris 7.
> I wouldn't do any of these things. If these systems are still on a
> service contract with Sun, I'd definitely use Solaris 9.
> If not, I'd probably use NetBSD/sparc, since it's sparc codebase is
> far more mature than Linux's. But I don't guess I'd begrudge your
> using Linux.
> > Uses are for DNS and NIS(+). I question whether NIS+ is available
> > on linux (I recall that it wasn't a fewyears back - but this may
> > have changed),
> Linux support for NIS+ is poor at best. The typical excuse for this
> can't sound anything but lame: "NIS+ is too complicated, you really
> just want to use NIS." Yeah, sure, great, because I LIKE any random
> user having the ability to ypcat shadow...
> > if we move to solaris 8 what the licensing cost is, and what disadvantage
> > there is to staying with solaris 7 (not current - patches, support
> > lifespan, etc). 
> If you're paying Sun for annual support already, there's no cost
> at all. If you're not paying Sun, I think there's a one time fee
> for the software (and a bit more than that for the media). That's
> all documented quite well on Sun's website, if memory serves.
> (Solaris licenses do not, as IRIX licenses do, carry with the
> hardware, but they're not particularly expensive from a business
> point of view, and they're not recurring until you want a new
> version of the OS.)
> -- 
> gabriel rosenkoetter

-Douglas Marshall Johnson

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