Stephen Gran on 25 Mar 2004 11:36:02 -0000


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Re: [PLUG] Re: TMDA (was Re: whitelisting for POP3)


On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 11:28:56PM -0500, Mark M. Hoffman said:
> So Stephen, if you've read me this far: can the obnoxious part be mitigated
> or is it hopeless?

I think the TMDA challenges fall into the same category of mail as the
'you sent a virus' and 'undeliverable message' crap that keeps coming in
for mails I never sent.  I get about 10 or 12 of each category/day.
Collateral spam, whatever you want to call it.  They just all go in the
SPAM folder, and I don't read them at this point.  It's not worth the
effort of sorting out if one a week is actually for a message I did
send.  It's usually not even that high.  I can't think of the last time
I got a legitimate bounce back, so the roughly 3000 collateral spams so
far this year are just wasted bandwidth, as far as I'm concerned.  I
know that you have to send bounces for 'undeliverable mail' -
anything less is irresponsible, on the off chance it was from a good
sender.  The rest?  I don't see a need.

> OBTW: Even if you were a cretin who didn't care about being obnoxious...
> how are you going to get your legitimate email from ebay or newegg?  Add
> them to the whitelist, sure, but they get spoofed a lot.

Another problem.  I'm not sure how you would work around that one with
TMDA.

Take care,
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