W. Chris Shank on 17 Aug 2004 23:51:02 -0000


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Re: [PLUG] devfs, scsi, & 2.6


On Tue, 2004-08-17 at 10:24, Tobias DiPasquale wrote:
> On Aug 17, 2004, at 9:30 AM, W. Chris Shank wrote:
> > anyway - regarding devfs: i'm using devfs and it is finding the rot (/)
> > partition fine, but during boot, fsck tries to mount /dev/hda3 - which
> > is /home - but it fails since there is no /dev/hda3 under devfs. The
> > system will continue to boot - and then I have to go to a console and
> > create a link from /dev/ide/...../part3 to /dev/hda3 - which I can then
> > mount. I suppose I could change the fstab to include the devfs devices
> > directly - but that would break compatibility with the 2.4.25 kernel.
> > What is the generally accepted method of getting this to work? Change
> > fstab? Automatically create the links to /dev/hda3 on each boot?
> 
> devfs is deprecated and has some problems. udev is now the preferred 
> method of userspace device handling for the 2.6.x series. See the below 
> links for more info (warning: some have a Gentoo bent; it seems that 
> Gentoo guys are at the forefront of this particular field):
> 
> http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug/udev-FAQ
> http://www.reactivated.net/udevrules.php
> http://webpages.charter.net/decibelshelp/LinuxHelp_UDEVPrimer.html

Ok thanks. I'll check that out.
> 
> I would also recommend moving away from Debian to basically anything 
> else; Debian's release process is very slow and totally b0rked. As 
> well, nearly every other distro has an answer to APT these days (most 
> can use APT as well) so that's no longer a selling point for Debian. 
> Personally, I would recommend Gentoo.

I'm actually a fairly recent convert to debian and am really liking it.
This is my first attempt at a pure debian desktop - but we have been
really satisfied with it for our servers. I still have one client using 
RH 9 and we continually find it difficult getting the packages we want
on it to install well. Whereas with debian, if we want our standard
server to have something that's deviated from the main deb branch - we
create our own custom package. That way - if/when the main branch has it
we can use that package instead. It's been very easy. I never had this
type of luck with RedHat or SuSE - unless I wanted to stick strictly to
what the vendor gave me.

Not to start a flame war or anything. Redhat has it's place. Just not on
our servers.

BTW: Toby, I hope you did well on that squelcher thing. I heard about it
from george. You'll have to tell me the scoop sometime. 

> 
> > Also- I've got a scsi device question with 2.6:is there scsi_mod and
> > ide-scsi drivers for 2.6? I get boot errors that the modules don't 
> > exist
> > and without them I can't get my CD-RW to work. Any thoughts on this?
> 
> If you compiled in SCSI support and SCSI emulation, all you need is a 
> boot-time parameter of ide-scsi. You can ignore the errors for modules 
> not existing (any script expecting a module when you've compiled it in 
> statically will give this same error).
> 
> As well, the later versions of cdrecord don't require SCSI emulation to 
> make use of an ATA CD-R/RW drive anymore, so that's not necessary 
> unless you actually have SCSI devices.
> 
> --
> Tobias DiPasquale
> 
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