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Re: [PLUG] Philadelphia Wireless Project
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Let me start out by compressing your two responses to my one email back
into one email, in response to your statement that it isn't a completely
separate budget issue, maybe you didn't understand, I meant it was off
topic. My opinion or your opinion on the politics of spending that
money are not on topic with the list, if you would like to discuss that
separately, feel free to email me off list.
Also, from the previous email, to your assertion that it is a bad thing
that we are using only 802.11b, the reality is the speed gains from g
would likely not be worth it, depending on the price difference.
Assuming the primary goal of this is to deliver internet access, think
about yourself using wireless broadband at home... which is going to
offer you faster downloads, wireless g or wireless b? The answer is
neither, the bottleneck is your connection to the internet. So if the
city will save money by deploying only b, then they should go for it. I
haven't seen a comparison to be honest, so I can't speak of this.
Otherwise I am guessing you mean wait for n? That would be nice, but
it's not ready for a project like this.
William H. Magill wrote:
| No, these issues are NOT resolved!
I said *if* anything the addition of professionals would create an
environment where illegal use is infinitely more likely to result in
arrest than somebodies home. Because people doing this at an open
access points now are not logged in anyway shape or form. There will
likely be logs in this network (surely they will do at least that).
And even if they *didn't* do *anything*, it would result in an
environment no different than we live in today, where there are many
access points available. These "deviants" might just not have to go so
far to do their anonymous deeds.
But the point is, this is a problem with wireless access in general, not
the cities plan.
| Nobody gives a hoot about people downloading porn or buying drugs but
| the cops -- However, what will get the Internet Community royally pissed
| off, very rapidly, will be all of the SPAM which will originate from
| this network. The city will suddenly find their entire network
| "black-holed" one day. Remember, we're not just talking about a couple
| of hot-spots, in popular parks. We're (supposedly) talking about a
| wireless network that is available anywhere in the city.
Huh? Has the city said they would be offering email accounts? I hope
not, that would be sort of a waste. If they haven't, that removes the
possibility of the city itself forwarding spam. As for spam originating
from some user, all the more reason to be blocking email without a
correct reverse dns entry. Problem solved.
| The real problem with this entire project is that, like with Cable
| Television, PGW and the Telephone before it, the City will create
| Monopolies (aka franchises) that will operate this "thing" however they
| want to operate it. There is no technical Public Input into the entire
| process now, and there will not be any later. The entire "Committee" is
| made up of "stake-holders," i.e. people from non-profits and NGOs who
| are looking to get free HIGH-SPEED internet connections. There is no
| technical capability on the committee. All of their technical
| "expertise" comes from an outside consulting firm they have hired.
Well the second half is a legitimate gripe. The first half is the
hog-wash people spread that just because something is run by government
is bound to be poorly done. It's funny that you mention cable and
telephone. If none of us can vouch for how poorly run some of those
services are, I would be shocked.
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