W. Chris Shank on 9 Dec 2004 03:58:03 -0000


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Re: [PLUG] Re: what is the best way to bulk email 2 million opt in email addresses?


Dude, this is spam. It's not illegal (necessarily). But you have to ask yourself if you want to be a spammer.

Speaking from experience, it's unwise. Most people will ignore or delete your email or it will be blocked by Toby's smart software. Spamming is a cheap way to advertise but 2mil might not even be enough names to get results. Tell your employer to spend the money he'd pay you (plus a lot more) on a mail marketing campaign. He'll get better results.



On Wed, 2004-12-08 at 17:03 -0800, Marc Zucchelli wrote:
--- Tobias DiPasquale <toby@cbcg.net> wrote:

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> On Dec 8, 2004, at 6:53 PM, Marc Zucchelli wrote:
> > When you purchase a list of email addresses from a
> > reputable company like www.infousa.com (which
> > yahoo.com   happens to have posted as a service on
> > yahoo small business).  And when this reputable
> > company claims that these are all opt in email
> > addresses, people that said that they want to
> recieve
> > emails on certain subjects.  How is this spam?
> 
> What are they opting into, exactly? Certainly not
> anything first-hand, 
> since you admittedly bought the list from a third
> party. Therefore, 
> they haven't opted into anything from you and
> therefore you are a 
> spammer since you can't be sure that any of the
> mailboxes on that list 
> have requested mail from you.
> 
> I work for Symantec's anti-spam division; let me say
> authoratatively 
> that the behavior you described is spamming. I spend
> every day 
> attempting to limit or stop activities of this sort.
> No one has a list 
> of 2 million real, confirmed, opt-in email
> addresses... noone. 
> Furthermore, if there was such a list, it most
> certainly wouldn't be 
> for sale on Yahoo!.
> 
> > A client of mine, against my advice, one time
> > purchased a program that crawled the internet for
> > email addresses and then sent email out to all of
> > them.  THAT is spam.
> 
> Correction: that is _ALSO_ spam.

Then what is the difference between spam and legit
email marketing?  I would like as much info on this as
possible in case I am being naive.  I also dont want
to get anyone in trouble.



		
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