Christopher M. Jones on 17 Oct 2005 04:46:11 -0000


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Re: [PLUG] "Current" Linux on old laptop


By the way, the Debian disks (you mentioned how there are so many) all
have the install program on them. The only disk you really need is the
first -- at least for getting a base system installed. The bootdisks
will get the machine bootstrapped and load the kernel, etc. off of the
cdrom. The first three or four Debian disks have most of the popular
stuff on them. That at least gets you past the installation. Then you
can worry about getting your nics working.


On Sun, 2005-10-16 at 21:30 -0400, jazzman@exdomain.org wrote:
> Thanks, I'll give this a try. I know for a fact at least 2 of the PCMCIA 
> NICs are physically good because I've used them in other machines 
> recently, including this laptop when RH9 was installed on it. I think the 
> problem is that even after manually configuring the IP adress on the card 
> and everything the routing table is still empty, and attempting to 
> manually enter routes into the table returns "SIOC[Add|Del]: Network is 
> Down", even though the NIC is listed in ifconfig as up. Grrr... so 
> frustrating... I'm starting to wonder if downloading the 16 cds is the way 
> to go at this point...
> 
> Thanks
> Marc
> 
>  On Sun, 16 Oct 2005, Christopher M. Jones wrote:
> 
> > The problem with a non-bootable cdrom is the booting part. All you need
> > is to load the boot loader, and then you can boot the kernel off of a
> > cdrom. Knoppix probably has a way to do this-- boot with the floppy and
> > continue with the cd.
> > 
> > On Sun, 2005-10-16 at 17:10 -0400, jazzman@exdomain.org wrote:
> > > No. The whole point of using a floppy install was because my old Thinkpad 
> > > can't boot from CDRom, so a Knoppix CD is useless. I've had RedHat 
> > > installed on it previously and once the system is fully installed 
> > > everything works with at least 2 of these network cards, that I know for 
> > > sure. It just seems like the Debian install isn't playing nice.
> > > 
> > > I am going to try again and see if I can get anywhere with it.
> > > Thanks
> > > Marc
> > > 
> > > On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 gyoza@comcast.net wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Have you tested the interfaces with Knoppix or something else?
> > > > 
> > > > jazzman@exdomain.org wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > >However none seem able to get an address via DHCP. I have tried manually 
> > > > >assigning an address and they still won't talk to anything. I have 
> > > > >attempted to restart the network services and what not, ifconfiged the 
> > > > >heck out of the network cards... all to no avail.
> > > > >
> > > > >Any suggestions?
> > > > >  
> > > > >
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