Eric on 23 Oct 2006 03:13:34 -0000


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Re: [PLUG] spam abatement with a challenge/response system


On Sunday 22 October 2006 10:35 pm, Douglas Muth wrote:
> On 10/22/06, Jeff McAdams <jeffm@iglou.com> wrote:
> > Eric wrote:
> > > While exploring the internet for something else entirely I found mapSoN
> > > - a challenge/response system for filtering email.
> >
> > I've only ever been on the receiving end of these things.
> >
> > I can say that they're a really good way to cut down on your email
> > load...including from many people not sending spam that really have a
> > legitimate basis for exchanging email with you but aren't willing to
> > jump through your hoops to do it.
>
> I run a few mailing lists and several Drupal-powered websites, all of
> which are double-opt in.  Upon sending a request to join, the system
> emails you back to confirm that you are in fact the owner of that
> email address.
>
> Every once in awhile, I have to deal with a user who is running such a
> challenge/response system, and end up having to spend a few minutes
> figuring out what account their email address is associated to,
> clicking the URL in the message to whitelist myself, validating their
> account by hand, and so on.  End result is that it slows things down
> for the user and creates more work for me.
>
> Current implementations of such challenge/response systems simply do
> not scale if you plan on joining a lot of mailing lists or websites.
> And some large and automated systems may just discard the challenge
> message, making it impossible to join unless you white list their
> entire domain. (then you better pray that they aren't using a
> third-party email service)
>
> Just something to keep in mind.
>
> -- Doug

Ah yes, mailing lists.  I would whitelist (in advance) all my current 
lists emails and other correspondents.  Also, mapSoN is (allegedly) 
smart enough to recognize if the incoming email is in reply to an email
that I sent.  In that case, it automatically white-lists the sender.
Yes, white listing the entire domain is risky... although if it's a 
problem I'm sure I'll find out ASAP.

Thanks,
Eric

P.S. Why did you choose Drupal over say Mambo Server or Joomla!  I ask
because I want to use a CMS for a couple of upcoming projects and Drupal 
seems really good and quite popular... but so does Joomla!  I even looked
at Typo3 but gave up when it simply would not run.  It's probably an 
Apache config option about following sym-links but I'll be damned if I
could correct it!

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