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Re: [PLUG] Mother board/ Linux OS suggestions
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Despite all of the Debian elitists on the plug mailing list I'm going to
put a good word in for Ubuntu. Ubuntu doesn't have the reputation Debian
has on the server, but that does not mean it's not a rock solid server
platform. I've been working with Ubuntu server for about a year and it's
rock solid, I have never seen it go down. Obviously this stability is
thanks to the Debian project for building such a great platform. Ubuntu
server is a very minimal install but you can put as much as you want on
it. Advantages of Debian vs. Ubuntu? Other than you get to be an elitist
bastard, not many. They're both good choices really.
- --Alex Launi
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Isaac Bennetch wrote:
> I too use Debian -- but not for anything critical, just personal
> stuff. I run the unstable branch which occasionally results in *minor*
> problems with package upgrades, but nothing serious. The type of
> problems I see are when an upgraded package depends on another package
> that hasn't yet been upgraded, so you just "hold" the upgrade until
> the new version comes along in a few hours/days. I don't have an SMP
> processor, but understand that Debian handles those well. The whole
> thing about Debian is stability, if you stick with "stable" you might
> not get the latest updates to a particular software package (my wlan
> drivers a few years ago suffered that problem, had to install them
> manually since Debian didn't package the new version), but as Matthew
> said, the stability is unmatched.
>
> I haven't tried Kubuntu, Ubuntu, etc, but from what I hear they're not
> worthwhile.
>
> Hope that helps, good luck.
>
> On 5/23/07, Matthew Rosewarne <mukidohime@case.edu> wrote:
>> On Wednesday 23 May 2007 00:48, Doug Crompton wrote:
>> > I was also looking at Kubuntu 7.04 as the OS. I have not followed the
>> > Linux distributions lately, so I am not sure if this is a good
>> choice. I
>> > honestly have never run my current system in anything other than
>> command
>> > line mode! I am comfortable not using a windowing system and I have no
>> > problem with continuing doing that so a linux flavor that would support
>> > dmraid, the core 2 duo (I guess this is an smp kernel?) and no graphics
>> > would be fine.
>> >
>> > I am use to the SUSE 7.3 file structure but I don't expect I would find
>> > anything much like that now. I really just want a late, stable linux
>> that
>> > has a broad SW base. It is going to be hard enough to switch all this
>> > over. That is why I want to get it going BEFORE I have a failure.
>>
>>
>> While there is a server version of Ubuntu, there's very little reason
>> to use
>> it over Debian. Ubuntu's server version is merely Ubuntu without its
>> customised GUI, which is really it's only attraction. The Debian install
>> process is at least as good as that of Ubuntu, and the administrative
>> tools
>> are the same. I switched from Suse to Debian not long after I noticed a
>> steady decline in the quality of the Suse distribution, and I would
>> say I'm
>> quite pleased with the results. I was looking forward to Ubuntu when
>> it was
>> announced, but every version I have tried has suffered from serious
>> quality &
>> reliability problems, just what I was trying to escape.
>>
>> Suse's file structure is somewhat odd, I always thought it put way too
>> much
>> in /opt, but I suppose it worked well enough. Debian obsessively
>> follows the
>> FHS, which at least makes the locations of things quite predictable.
>> As for
>> stability and breadth of available software, Debian is unmatched.
>> However,
>> the default installation results in a _very_ minimal system, far
>> smaller than
>> Suse's most spartan install option. Great care also devotes a great
>> deal of
>> attention to the maintenance of the distribution, including the
>> requirement
>> for all of its packages to be updated cleanly and without breaking. I
>> found
>> Suse quite frustrating when it came to upgrading, and would always
>> expect to
>> perform a clean install for each new version, but Debian I've only ever
>> installed once.
>>
>> If you want some more info or help, check out the #plug channel, since
>> a good
>> number of PLUG members seem to be Debian users. In any case, I hope
>> all goes
>> well with your upgrade.
>>
>> P.S. I'm also clinging to my old machine, coming up on a decade now...
>>
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