Bill Hance on 9 Oct 2007 18:34:39 -0000


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Re: [PLUG] linux question... (apache) (virtual hosts)


As soon as the USA moves to IPv6, the stronger we'll be as a nation.
Everyone should request more IPs to hasten the upgrade to v6.





> At 2007-09-27 17:11 -0400, Sean C. Sheridan <scs@CampusClients.com> wrote:
>> > Could you pretty-please give those back?
>> Sure, just as soon as you convince your isp "NTT America, Inc." to give
>> back their 65536 addresses and start using just one... then I'll be
>> happy
>> to give back my measly 140 ip addresses which I fought hard and paid
>> through the nose to get.  I guess their need is more important than mine
>> ;-)
>
> First, you seem to have me confused with someone else. No address
> space I use comes through that netblock.
>
> Second, I think you're purposely misunderstanding what I wrote in
> order to prove a point, but your example contains a logical fallacy.
> The netblock where my systems live (71.240.0.0/12) belongs to a very
> large ISP, who subdivides that netblock within their own routing in
> variously-sized blocks (in my case, 5 IPs, each of which is used by
> a different server, to say nothing of the several servers that have
> no publicly-routable IP address because they have no need for one).
>
> The IPv4 system has long been suballocated, that's a functional use
> of the address space. You're right that there are huge tracts of
> numberspace that ISPs (including both Speakeasy, my former ISP, and
> Verizon, my current ISP, the latter to a greater degree than the
> former) should give back, because they have no justifiable need for
> them, but that doesn't make it okay to use an order of magnitude
> more addresses than are needed technologically at any scale, for
> whatever order of magnitude. This is the "everyone else is doing it"
> fallacy: just because a pluarlity of the population spits on the
> street and uses vulgarity in front of other people's children doesn't
> mean it's socially okay for me to do so.
>
> --
> gabriel rosenkoetter
> gr@eclipsed.net
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