W. Chris Shank on 19 Jan 2008 12:25:40 -0800 |
>> James is fortunate that he isn't replacing an existing infrastructure, but >> essentially starting from scratch, which makes the typical migration issues >> far less of a problem. He's not starting from scratch, even if he thinks he is. I have been involved in enough of these to know there is always some legacy stuff they have to keep or some infrastructure they have to utilize. Now, if the school was still using green-screen dumb terminals and he was replacing it with PCs, he'd be starting from scratch. No, he has an exiting infrastructure he needs to get under control and move up from there. And it won't be easy. I've seen spaghetti network wiring in these schools with multiple patch panels spread randomly, switches buried in classroom closets for no reason, and other craziness that will leave you saying - "What were they thinking". But in fact, they weren't. In most of the schools I've been in (probably a half-dozen so far) - their IT was strung together by a series of volunteers who ran out of time or motivation to see their project through. The computers usually consist of mostly a random collection of donated equipment from various vintages with some of the higher ups actually having modern ones. People think they are doing their school a favor by "donating" their old PC - when in reality, this donation turns into more of a problem for them, unless they have a _really_ well organized IT department. But staff like that is usually beyond the reach of their budget. What I have seen on several occasions is a lot of half- completed attempts to get things together. Of the schools I've been in, I've only seen one that was well organized. For that school, a parent volunteer who happens to be a high level MCSE set it up. That network is running well because of his skill and knowledge. However, there was a considerable software and hardware expense initially. I'm frustrated with the notion that somehow replacing everything with Linux is going to save the day. Yes Linux is a great OS and yes it _could_ save money _if_ all your applications, peripherals, and hardware is compatible _and_ your staff is knowledgeable enough to transition to it _and_ all their tools are available and the students can take work back and forth, and - and - and - and. Unless the only applications they use are non-collaborative Email and web browsing, anytime you push Linux in without a significant plan - your setting yourself up for failure. And each time someone shoehorns Linux into a network without a clear plan for success, it becomes fodder for the anti-Linux crowd. I'm sorry if I'm ranting. I'm really not anti-Linux. I use it to a tremendous extent and even commercially support about a dozen Linux desktops. So I know from experience, Linux itself isn't the answer to a poorly designed network or untrained users or crappy hardware or an inadequate IT budget. It will in fact will make your life miserable and make users skeptical about using Linux in the future when it truly has overcome the few remaining hurdles. I guess I'm jaded because I've been there - done that, and it sucks to see your effort fail. This hits close to home for me because I've been in James position and attempted to do just what he's trying to do about 5 years ago. Back then, instead of Vista as the problem OS it was XP and Windows 98 as the incumbent. But the story is very similar. Linux is more mature than it was then, but XP is also far superior to Windows 98, so the starting points aren't that far off. What these schools need is a real _comprehensive solution_ that addresses all their needs and pain points. Just sticking Linux in the lab is only going to make his life harder because he'll have more complexity to try to manage. Arrgg - sorry - i just find this whole topic so frustrating. On Jan 19, 2008, at 2:07 PM, Matthew Rosewarne wrote: > James is fortunate that he isn't replacing an existing > infrastructure, but > essentially starting from scratch, which makes the typical migration > issues > far less of a problem. -- W. Chris Shank ACE Technology Group, LLC www.MyRemoteITDept.com (610) 640-4223 ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
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