JP Vossen on 21 Jun 2008 07:21:32 -0700

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Re: [PLUG] possible preso

> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 15:29:15 -0400
> From: brent saner <>
> Subject: Re: [PLUG] possible preso
> JP Vossen wrote:
> |
> | Any chance on doing that one for PLUG West or North?  I'd like to
> | see it, but am not going to be able to get down to the city for it.
> | Some PANTUG members might like this one too.
> entirely possible. i've not been to either location yet, but i work
> quite closer to both of them than i do Central.
> would PANTUG want a separate presentation or would they just try to
> catch this presentation?

PANTUG meets in KoP, so the Malvern PLUG location would work as a 
two-fer.  I'm not as sure about the Blue Bell location.

> | Being a Security Geek, I'm a member of the ISSA-DV, and we talk
> | about computer forensics a lot.
> i'm a closet forensics nerd myself.
> | I was able to tour the PA-RCFL ( which was
> | pretty cool.  One of the things that came up is that Windows is/was
> | the vast bulk of investigations, but cell phones and PDAs are on a
> | hockey-stick rise.  So the first thing that jumped into my head was
> | that this tool has very interesting implications there.
> absolutely. being able to do raw dumps is always a huge plus. the
> backup gui frontend they bundle with it is rather nice, as you can
> initiate a "backup" (although that may not be what it's actually used
> for) and 10-20 seconds later have a nice tarball of every text
> message, contact, call log, activity log, e-mail, picture, etc. on
> that phone. a bit intimidating, also- i am reminded of our recent
> thread in regards to traveling abroad and data privacy rights.

I was actually on the other side, trying to think like a bad guy.  In 
that case, I could use this tool to sanitize my PDA, though then you 
have to wonder how "clean" it really gets.

> | When I asked about Linux and/or encryption, they told me they
> | hardly ever see either.  Mostly Windows, Phones/PDAs more and more,
> | a few Macs, and that's mostly it.
> that's kind of depressing, but i'm not surprised.
> it's a world ruled by the big names out there, unfortunately.

I wasn't surprised by the Windows part, but was by the lack of 
encryption.  I'd have thought that was a no-brainer.  Guess not.

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