TuskenTower on 30 Apr 2009 07:19:08 -0700


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Re: [PLUG] The state of ATI vs. nVidia on Linux


Any opinions about the integrated Intel graphics chips like the X4500HD?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_GMA

thanks,
Amul

On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 8:17 AM, Eric <eric@lucii.org> wrote:
> I faced a similar decision right after Christmas when a second widescreen
> monitor arrived in my office.  My system is a Asus mobo with an Athlon X2 4400
> and 4GB of ECC RAM.  OS is Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid).
>
> My video card was made by Diamond Multi Media with an ATI chip.  It never worked
> well with either the ATI binary driver or the open source driver.  Dual monitor
> support only worked with the "standard" driver - but barely.  Acceleration only
> worked with the fglrx driver - but barely.
>
> I bought a "EVGA" brand card (8600 GTS) with an nVidia chip at MicroCenter for
> $82 (with a $40 rebate) and loaded the proprietary drivers.
>
> I'm EXTREMELY happy with the result.
>
> Dual monitors and acceleration are all working with no problems at all.  The
> performance can only be accurately described with terms like "spectacular".
>
> I loaded compiz (for a few desirable UI features) and everything just works
> perfectly.
>
> My conclusion is to buy what works NOW - not based on promises about what will
> work in the future.  If ATI is 100% open source supported and the drivers are
> available - and stable - then I'll think about switching when I build a new
> workstation.
>
> Good luck with your decision and your new system.
>
> Eric
>
> Gordon Dexter wrote:
>> I'm preparing a parts list for a new computer.  Among the many decisions
>> I have to make (Core 2 vs Core i7, Gigabyte vs. Asus vs... you know, all
>> that), one stands out as being particularly suited for this list.  I
>> plan on primarily using Linux on the new computer, (probably Ubuntu) and
>> was trying to decide on a graphics card.
>>
>> As far as I know:
>> *ATI has a really terrible binary blob driver, which is hard to get
>> working and even harder to get working with dual-monitor setups.
>> *nVidia has a better binary blob, which I've used in dual-screen setups
>> and it works pretty well
>> *nVidia open source drivers are generally lacking.  No 3D support, etc
>> *ATI open source drivers are lacking as well, but are being rapidly
>> improved upon with ATI's release of the specs
>>
>> In general, what are you choosing these days?  The more principled ATI,
>> since they released their specs?  Or the generally more practical
>> nVidia?  How good are ATI's open source drivers, and how much are they
>> expected to be improved upon in the short- and long-term?
>>
>> What would you advise in my case?  I have nothing in particular against
>> binary blob drivers as long as they're easy to get working and they work
>> well.  I consider dual-screen support a must-have.  3D acceleration
>> isn't as important, but still desired.  As much as I love tinkering, I
>> don't have a particular desire to spend hours getting my video to work.
>> What's your advice?
>>
>> --Gordon
>>
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