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Re: [PLUG] Advice for Web Application Framework


starting to use Django and its really nice.

On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 2:42 AM, Chaz Meyers <plug@thechaz.net> wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 9:11 PM, John Karr <brainbuz@brainbuz.org> wrote:
>> I'm starting development on a web based data application. Since this will be
>> a fairly large application I would like to select a Framework (ie Django,
>> Ruby on Rails, Catalyst) or collection of libraries/modules so that I can
>> focus on logic and functionality.
>
> If you want to stick with Perl but don't have much programming
> experience, I recommend looking at CGI::Application.
>
> Catalyst is awesome and I believe has a larger community surrounding
> it, but it takes advantage of programming concepts and Perl syntax
> which may not be familiar to you, so there might be a steeper learning
> curve.
>
> In contrast, in your usual C::A webapp you're just writing a fairly
> straightforward class. It's pretty transparent what's going on, and
> CGI/Application.pm is fairly understandable to read for someone even
> with a little Perl OOP experience.  As you become more experienced,
> you have the option of adding more advanced functionality like hooks
> and plugins, but none of those are needed when you're getting started.
>
>> I plan to take advantage of the fact
>> that Postgres supports writing Stored Procedures in PERL to move logic from
>> the front-end to the database, which further supports PERL as first choice
>> and Python (which is also supported by PostGres) as second choice.
>
> I don't know your exact situation so this bit may be completely
> irrelevant to you. If you have multiple applications touching the
> database, stored procedures can help a lot to eliminate duplication of
> logic and ensure data integrity.
>
> However, if your database is just acting as a data store for your
> webapp and you know for a fact that no other application will ever
> touch your database directly, it might be smart to keep as much of
> your logic in your application as you can. Web nodes are very easy to
> scale to multiple machines. Throw a reverse proxy in front of a bunch
> of web nodes, and as long as they're not writing session data to disk
> you're set. Scaling to a second database machine can be much more
> tricky.
>
> - Chaz Meyers
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