Carl Johnson on 4 Oct 2010 20:04:06 -0700


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Re: [PLUG] Recent VOIP Experience Anyone?

  • From: Carl Johnson <cjohnson19791979@gmail.com>
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  • Subject: Re: [PLUG] Recent VOIP Experience Anyone?
  • Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2010 23:04:11 -0400
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Since I'll need some new hardware for this project it won't happen right away. I suppose an old 1.5 GigHz P4 PC with 512 MB of PC-100 RAM won't give me satisfactory service with Asterisk :-)


Why not? How elaborate of a setup are you planning?

"Eric at Lucii.org" <eric@lucii.org> wrote:

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>Three things...
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>One: I don't like the locked down aspect of Vonage either.
>
>Two: Vonage may seem very aggressive with their price but the core service,
>connectivity, is extremely cheap.  I _suspect_ that Vonage is making money hand
>over fist and the price is all out of proportion to the underlying technology cost.
>
>Three: The MagicJack is no longer on my 'recommend' list.  This week I found out
>that you cannot call the freeconferencecall.com - or any other free conference
>call company from your MagicJack.  Instead, they sneakily re-direct you to their
>own free conference call system.
>
>It turns out that they might be doing this to avoid "huge fees" from the CLEC
>that routes the conference call.  See:
>http://clarkhoward.com/liveweb/shownotes/2009/09/02/16566/
>What these "huge" fees are I don't know but for $20/year income it won't take
>too many per line to start losing money.  In any event, why won't the MagicJack
>company be up front about that?  Why not offer me the opportunity to pay the
>fees for those calls where they can't cover them?  This is poor corporate
>behavior in my opinion.
>
>
>I'M MAD AS HELL AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANY MORE!
>
>Well, not exactly.  I just think it's time to explore an Asterisk solution.  I
>wanted to do this for years but I also don't want to do this.
>
>It will:
>
> * add a significant hardware cost
> * cost me time to learn to set it up
> * cost me time to administer it
>
>I'm going to research some of my options over the next few weeks.  I know that
>Lee Marzke has use Asterisk quite successfully.  (Hey Lee, does your service
>charge you extra to call one of the "free" conference calling companies?)
>
>Since I'll need some new hardware for this project it won't happen right away.
>I suppose an old 1.5 GigHz P4 PC with 512 MB of PC-100 RAM won't give me
>satisfactory service with Asterisk :-)
>
>Eric
>
>On 10/01/2010 10:03 AM, Carl Johnson wrote:
>> I'd agree 100% that vonage is great from a functionality perspective. I just don't like the proprietary "locked down" aspect of their devices. 
>> 
>> "Claude M. Schrader" <plug@claudeschrader.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Eric's link is very damming, but on top of that, the price alone should
>>> give you pause. Vonage is very aggressive with their price, and are
>>> exponentially more than magicjack. $20/year isn't a business plan - there has
>>> to be something augmenting that.
>>> Claude
>>>
>>> On 18:17 Thu 30 Sep     , Amul Shah wrote:
>>>> On Sep 30, 2010, at 1:26 PM, "Claude M. Schrader" <plug@claudeschrader.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 08:54 Thu 30 Sep     , Eric at Lucii.org wrote:
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>>>>>> I use a MagicJack for one phone line.  It's only $40 to start and $20 per year
>>>>>> but it _requires_ a Windows PC or Mac to work.  This connects to the network
>>>>>> directly which is excellent and it's still outrageously cheap.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I know this is a potential flamewar, but there are also privacy implications
>>>>> with MagicJack.
>>>>> Claude
>>>>
>>>> Pointers please. I know some people who are using magic jack. Time to bing it.
>>>>
>>>> Amul
>>>>
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