Andrew Craig on 15 Dec 2011 05:32:08 -0800

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Re: [PLUG] I have had time to consider and may now comfortably hate Unity.

you probably know most of this, but if not...

in # ! 
iceweasel = FF installed by default
icedove = thunderbird install thru synaptic

you can install FF true, and from what I've seen best to add Linux Mint Debian to your /etc/apt/sources.list install FF then # out the line once your done so to not do any possible messing up of the system.  

fwiw, i don't see any reason to do that though.  

also keep in mind any new packages do not add themselves to the menu, you can do that either through the XML or a gui tool.  Pretty simple.  executables held here - /usr/share/bin

Their community is great, super responsive and helpful.  I recommend joining.



On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 7:51 AM, Matt Murphy <> wrote:
Crunchbang.  Check!

On Wednesday, December 14, 2011, Andrew Craig <> wrote:
> On 12/14/2011 11:32 PM, Matt Murphy wrote:
>> I've been a consistent Gnome/Ubuntu user for 7 or 8 years now, and,
>> now that I've had a couple of months to let it sink in, I feel very
>> strongly that Unity and Gnome3 are mistakes.  Who wants a kiosk
>> interface for their desktop or laptop?  Touchpad, maybe.  But with a
>> keyboard, it's just horrible.  Apple envy is a terrible, terrible
>> thing.
>> So-called "Ubuntu Classic" is particularly infuriating.  What made
>> them think that we don't want a functional panel anymore?  XFCE is, as
>> always, very close to perfect execution -- I only lack something that
>> will keep that goddam trackpad's click settings from resetting every
>> time X restarts.  LXDE is very appealing (same problem with the
>> trackpad clicking), but I'm finding that the panel freezes when
>> executing some apps (if I don't do a nohup call to launch -- and it
>> can't survive a suspend operation without hanging).  KDE is, at long
>> last, slightly less of a lemon party than the current Gnome...
>> Congratulations, Trolltech, you have ascended the heights at last!
>> Enlightenment is actually rock solid (goddam touchpad issue, still) --
>> which sort of makes my head hurt...  Because E is supposed to do
>> whacky things -- burn your toast and squirt you with lighter fluid --
>> while Gnome is supposed to just work.  Which it doesn't anymore.  At
>> least not on Ubuntu.
>> What are users of Gentoo and other distros seeing in their desktops these days?
>> M
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> Try debian based crunchbang.  very nice.  uses openbox.
> drew
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