Ron Kaye Jr on 19 Nov 2012 10:47:49 -0800

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Re: [PLUG] [plug-announce] PLUG West Winter meetings CANCELLED

 i would be interested.
sounds great.
 Ron Kaye Jr 

On 11/19/12, Lee H. Marzke wrote:

I run a small data center / lab in my home office with a dozen servers that is 95% virtual and
would be willing to give a talk on the selection of tools and dive into some of the
servers and architecture. 

So would people be interested in a talk on how to setup a significantly sized data center/lab
with separate DMZ, LAN, and SAN security zones on only one Dell 2970 host? This 
is an illustration of software defined networking, as most of the network is now just
a virtual process itself.

However it's not all Linux....

I use the latest vSphere 5.1 environment on one physical server, and everything
including the BSD firewall, and Nexenta SAN storage are virtual. 2 Cisco switches
bridge the virtual environment to the office with LACP trunking between the switches. 
VLANS for everything crossing from virtual to physical ( Verizon ONT, DMZ, LAN )

Of course there are several Linux servers for Apache, Plone and Mailman, etc.


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Sent: Monday, 19 November, 2012 8:16:45 AM
Subject: Re: [PLUG] [plug-announce] PLUG West Winter meetings CANCELLED

I think those are all great ideas. I think I mentioned before, that having talks about more general items can be more appealing and although there is a lot of experience in the room, I have found there is always something new to pick up on that maybe was forgotten or has gotten stale.
I think it would be interesting how people set up their machines, do their partitioning, how they run multiple disto's, vim configs, cool scripts and aliases like Fred mentioned. Do you set up a start up config. If you use thunar, do you use custom actions and what are they. I've been using LaTeX lately, maybe a quick mention of that. 
Plus discussions such as these may elicit more questions. 
There are definitely lots of areas that may seem basic at first glance or not as fun as mythtv/mythbox, but when you dive in, there are 
 treasures in there. Plus for new attendees or linux converts, a chance to share experiences, trials and tribulations, etc.


On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 7:41 PM, Fred Stluka <> wrote:

 PLUG West members,
 On 11/18/12 12:27 AM, Paul L. Snyder wrote: 
 Due the unavailability of our regular meeting location at FIS in November
and usual low attendance at winter West meetings, PLUG West meetings are
cancelled for November, December, January, and February. There will NOT
be a meeting on Monday, November 19.

 One way to boost attendance might be to have some talks that 
 are more introductory.
 Rich Freeman made that suggestion a while back (see his post 
 appended below Paul's). I think it would be a great way to reach 
 out to potential new members. Currently, I think new people 
 attending their first meeting may be intimidated by the expert 
 level of most of the attendees, and the deep detailed issues we 
 discuss. I see a lot of people come for one meeting and never
 Rich offered a couple of topics that he could speak on, but no one
 ever replied. He also offered a couple of very specific suggestions
 to boost attendance, like "bring a friend" to an intro talk.
 If Rich is not available, I could do an intro talk. I have notes at 
 Web site. I'd start with:
 and (not at the Web site) I have a whole outline of intro topics 
 I often use when training clients who've never used Linux before.
 Or I could do an intro talk on Unix security starting with:
 which might tempt JP or someone to follow up with a more 
 advanced security talk.
 Or an advanced talk on all the various forms of I/O redirection:
 Or an advanced lightning talk on rsync:
 and a lightweight historical overview of other networking commands:
 Or a relatively advanced talk on aliases:
 and maybe toss in some of my favorite shell scripts. 
 Also, we could repeat some of the past talks. For example, I could 
 give my "Intro to Cloud Computing" talk again:
 Fred Stluka -- -- 
 Bristle Software, Inc -- -- Glad to be of 
 Open Source: Without walls and fences, we need no Windows or 
 On 11/18/12 12:27 AM, Paul L. Snyder wrote: 
 Due the unavailability of our regular meeting location at FIS in November
and usual low attendance at winter West meetings, PLUG West meetings are
cancelled for November, December, January, and February. There will NOT
be a meeting on Monday, November 19.

If you're in need of a December event, the PLUG Central and PLUG North
meetings are still on, and the Philadelphia Pinball Geeknic is coming up
on December 15th.

So, this gives us a few months to get next year's meetings planned out.
I'd love to get some speaker volunteers on the books now for next year, to
avoid the last-minute scrambles we've been having lately. If you can't
commit to a date this early, that's fine...just send your topic idea to me
or to the discussion list.

Don't know what to speak about? Pick something you'd like to learn'll have some motivation to learn about it in the next four
months if you've got a presentation scheduled at the end!
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 On 9/5/12 10:41 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: 
 Looking at the calendar it seems like we have a lot of gaps, at least
at North. I was wondering if it wouldn't be a bad idea to shift gears
and toss in the occasional newbie-oriented talk? Maybe aim at
newbie-to-intermediate. I wouldn't mind doing a talk or two - we
should space them out with the usual advanced talks, and there is no
reason they couldn't be repeated from time to time.

Some topics I could probably quickly prepare - if others also want to
cover these no objections:

1. Disk Storage (basics of files/permissions/filesystems, then moving
into partitioning, mdadm, lvm).
2. X11 (servers, clients, display managers, sessions, window
managers, xauth, ssh forwarding, etc).
3. Getting around in the shell (common commands, redirection, very
basic scripting, alternative shells, xterms, screen,
nano/vi/wget/links, etc).

Some other topics that others might want to cover:
1. A survey of distros (the big ones, families, etc).
2. Basic sys admin principles (for multi-user systems, servers, etc).
3. Software development on Linux.
4. A survey of common apps.

It seems like I see new faces fairly often, but the material is almost
always over their head unless they came for the topic. If I gave a
talk for newbies I could probably toss a bone or two to the veterans
but to get the most out of it we'd probably want to try to get
everybody to bring a friend who is new to Linux / etc.

On the bring a friend note, we could even have talks just to introduce
Linux in general to those who have never used it. I'm not sure
whether we'd actually draw enough of a crowd to make that worthwhile.
That sort of thing wouldn't offer much to even a relative newbie.



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