Re: [PLUG] Debian 7.1 on Macbook Pro

On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Christopher Wawak <chris@wawak.org> wrote:

Anecdotal evidence: I know of more than 5 people who run Fedora on their MacBook Airs, and no one's computer has burst into flames, started an international incident, or teleported to another dimension.

But enough FUD. Starting with kernel 3.9, the new pstate power scaling driver is used automatically for modern Intel CPUs. As far as I can tell, this is the same bits that OSX uses to toggle pstates. I am not your doctor, nor your attorney, but I am having trouble trying to see how a modern Linux kernel can blow up a modern processor.

Will, I'd be interested to see some documentation from Apple or Intel that states special software is required when running low voltage CPUs. As I said, I have many colleagues who run Fedora on MacBook Airs/Retina MBPs, and I'm sure they'd appreciate the information.

Cheers,

Chris

On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 5:17 PM, Christopher Ochsenreither <c.g.ochsenreither@gmail.com> wrote:

I was sufficiently scared that I removed the partitions for linux. Mac's disk utility did not want to touch the linux system and swap partitions so I had to erase them with gparted.

I wanted to do some video editing with LIVES, a particularly stellar linux-only application. It works pretty well in Virtualbox with 2GB of memory / 128MB video memory and 3D acceleration enabled.

This is actually my work laptop I'm talking about so it's probably better not to take a chance on it.

On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Will <staticphantom@gmail.com> wrote:

Sorry, I was pretty busy with some stuff at work. The truth is that if you don't have a variant of BootCamp to support the OS, don't try and run OS natively on any Mac system in the last 4 years or so. Some systems can handle the over voltage (per the Apple spec) but it is not reliable. As far as running in a VM, just use virtual box. Parallels is nice and VMware Fusion is nice too but sadly I think Virtual Box is the best.... unless you want direct hardware access and the ability to run a boot camp partition in a VM, then I would say Parallels can't be beat.

-Will C

On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 11:44 AM, Paul Walker <starsinmypockets@gmail.com> wrote:

I have heard confirmed stories of Windows running virtually on osx drinking peoples' beer. Be warned.

On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Christopher Ochsenreither <c.g.ochsenreither@gmail.com> wrote:

Paul - From what I understand this is only applies to installations on the hardware. I think running on vmare is okay. I've been running Ubuntu and Debian on Virtualbox since I got the macbook and I haven't had any issues.

All Men's Souls Are Immortal,
But The Souls Of The Righteous
Are Immortal and Divine
- Socrates

On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Paul Walker <starsinmypockets@gmail.com> wrote:

Wow - this is news to me! Never heard anything about vmware being dangerous to hardware. Can anyone chime in on this?

Paul Walker
toomodernmedia.com

On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Christopher Ochsenreither <c.g.ochsenreither@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks for the heads up! This is the latest Pro without retina display so I'm sure that applies.

All Men's Souls Are Immortal,

But The Souls Of The Righteous
Are Immortal and Divine
- Socrates

On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Will <staticphantom@gmail.com> wrote:

Depending on the year (which most likely is in the last 3 years) I would say DON'T DO IT! Reason being is that the processors in MacBook Pro's are not like regular laptops. You run a very high risk of blowing the processor because they are special low voltage processors. Some laptops survive but sadly the chance of destroying your laptop is quite high and I have heard many Apple tech's complain abou it (especially with the Air's).

-Will C

On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Christopher Ochsenreither <c.g.ochsenreither@gmail.com> wrote:

Anyone had good/bad experiences with Debian on a Macbook Pro? I'm either going to install Ubuntu 12.10 or Debian 7.1 on a 150 GB partition of my Macbook Pro. I installed the rEFIt EFI boot software and was able to run the live cd. I'd prefer to install Debian but it doesn't even recognize the touchpad from the drivers included in the netinstall disk and I'm wondering if it's worth the headache.

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