| Jonathan Simpson on 17 Jun 2015 07:50:39 -0700 |
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| Re: [PLUG] PLUG W and presos |
We should be ok to do this series at CoreDial. I just need dates and such to confirm availability and make sure someone can stick around to host (probably myself). Additionally, it occurred to me there's a couple 2 hour workshop slots still open at FOSSCON this year. Any chance we could have a solid intro level thing for that? On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 4:54 PM, Roque Lachica Jr <hawkstone731@gmail.com> wrote: > A six- pack of Ying Lings / Black&Tan ale awaits me after I get that cert. > Maybe two. > > On Jun 16, 2015 4:50 PM, "Anthony Martin" <anthony.j.martin142@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> actually if we may do classes why not cover the topics for the LPIC-1 so >> everyone can work together and learn so they can get certified if they want. >> >> Anthony Martin >> >> Jr Linux System Administrator >> >> (M) 609-410-1168 >> anthony.j.martin142@gmail.com >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 2:54 PM, Keith C. Perry >> <kperry@daotechnologies.com> wrote: >>> >>> Good point. Linux is a multi-user and its not obvious that that is the >>> case if you're not doing server work. >>> >>> I like your approach too- very similar to what I was thinking. More >>> focus on the pranking and hardening though. >>> >>> --- >>> KP- >>> >>> On Jun 16, 2015 2:31 PM, Rachel Rawlings <rachelneko@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > >>> > Keith, >>> > >>> > When Paden had us all in his Raspberry Pi, it was a great reminder that >>> > Linux as a multi-user system can be fun. Most of us are just alone on our >>> > workstations and laptops, or maintaining multiuser servers where stability >>> > and uptime are of utmost importance. (Not an xor) >>> > >>> > I think we should have a lab meeting that starts with multiuser, single >>> > host communication and just general pranking, following the law of /most/ >>> > surprise. Then we follow that wirh a session on hardening. >>> > >>> > On Jun 16, 2015 10:34 AM, "Keith C. Perry" <kperry@daotechnologies.com> >>> > wrote: >>> >> >>> >> I know its a more advanced topic but I wouldn't mind running a network >>> >> "war game". One of the things I used to do when I was teaching more >>> >> advanced networking courses was break the class up into groups and tell them >>> >> to interconnect themselves. Basically go through the similar the process of >>> >> building networks and peering. >>> >> >>> >> Then I tell them to try and gain intelligence (topology, running >>> >> services, etc) on the other networks including any compromises they could >>> >> muster. >>> >> >>> >> Good times as you can imagine. >>> >> >>> >> Obviously various security methods were learned but the other thing >>> >> that came out was how hard it was to do a successful compromise when you >>> >> know how to trap and trace attacks. >>> >> >>> >> For new Linux users especially those interested in networking, a >>> >> workshop like this could help gain confidence in understanding what attacks >>> >> look like, how to rate them (i.e. prioritize for action) and why things >>> >> aren't nearly as easy to do as tv and film would have you believe. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ >>> >> Keith C. Perry, MS E.E. >>> >> Owner, DAO Technologies LLC >>> >> (O) +1.215.525.4165 x2033 >>> >> (M) +1.215.432.5167 >>> >> www.daotechnologies.com >>> >> >>> >> ________________________________ >>> >> From: "rachelneko" <rachelneko@gmail.com> >>> >> To: "Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List" >>> >> <plug@lists.phillylinux.org> >>> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 10:13:18 AM >>> >> Subject: Re: [PLUG] PLUG W and presos >>> >> >>> >> I never got the impression that any PLUG folks were afraid of the >>> >> command line, but this would be a great topic for outreach, or for a >>> >> lightning talk night. Kinda like MJD's "What's in my ~/bin" with a bunch of >>> >> us showing off a few small tricks and pipelines. >>> >> >>> >> On Jun 16, 2015 8:11 AM, "Anthony Martin" >>> >> <anthony.j.martin142@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Those are the type of topics we were considering teaching stuff that >>> >>> is actually relevant and useful in the workplace and also what life is like >>> >>> working with FLOSS. >>> >>> >>> >>> Anthony Martin >>> >>> >>> >>> Jr Linux System Administrator >>> >>> >>> >>> (M) 609-410-1168 >>> >>> anthony.j.martin142@gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 7:52 AM, Jonathan Simpson >>> >>> <jonathan@jdsnetwork.com> wrote: >>> >>>> >>> >>>> To get ahead of things I'll pitch this today at CoreDial. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> I know internally there is probably some interest. Some topics I >>> >>>> think >>> >>>> would be of interest... >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Linux from the CLI: to explore the basic CLI commands and >>> >>>> beyond-basic >>> >>>> usage of them. I think a lot of folks used to GUI linux know what ls >>> >>>> and cp are for, but would possibly have an interest in more advanced >>> >>>> commands and piping them together. For me learning to string things >>> >>>> together was what took the CLI from a mundane chore when other >>> >>>> things >>> >>>> were not working to a toolbox that made life easier. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Setting up a LAMP server: This is kind of my goto to get someone >>> >>>> introduced to command line linux. It touches a lot of pieces and you >>> >>>> can finish with a usable product, and it's pretty easy to take that >>> >>>> usable product and continue to install a CMS on top of it to make it >>> >>>> even more approachable. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 7:44 AM, Anthony Martin >>> >>>> <anthony.j.martin142@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> > One thing I was discussing with Keith was the possibility of >>> >>>> > having actual >>> >>>> > classes at North on days other than the normal meetings. Going >>> >>>> > over beginner >>> >>>> > topics and some advanced topics. Would anyone be interested in >>> >>>> > this? >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > On Tue, Jun 16, 2015, 7:40 AM Jonathan Simpson >>> >>>> > <jonathan@jdsnetwork.com> >>> >>>> > wrote: >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> A bash and vim night seem like they could be a good combo topic, >>> >>>> >> although there is enough content to both to stand alone. >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> I'm probably going to get together a release party/installfest at >>> >>>> >> the >>> >>>> >> next Ubuntu release this fall. >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> I'm all for the kids stuff. Do we have a place to do it? >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 7:05 AM, Jonathan Simpson >>> >>>> >> <jsimpson@jdsnetwork.com> wrote: >>> >>>> >> > A bash and vim night seem like they could be a good combo >>> >>>> >> > topic, >>> >>>> >> > although >>> >>>> >> > there is enough content to both to stand alone. >>> >>>> >> > >>> >>>> >> > I'm probably going to get together a release party/installfest >>> >>>> >> > at the >>> >>>> >> > next >>> >>>> >> > Ubuntu release this fall. >>> >>>> >> > >>> >>>> >> > I'm all for the kids stuff. Do we have a place to do it? >>> >>>> >> > >>> >>>> >> > On Jun 16, 2015 6:46 AM, "Rich Freeman" >>> >>>> >> > <r-plug@thefreemanclan.net> >>> >>>> >> > wrote: >>> >>>> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 1:00 AM, JP Vossen <jp@jpsdomain.org> >>> >>>> >> >> wrote: >>> >>>> >> >> > >>> >>>> >> >> > Second, last night we were talking about presentations for >>> >>>> >> >> > future >>> >>>> >> >> > meetings and some of the things that came up are: >>> >>>> >> >> > >>> >>>> >> >> > * Mini install-fests >>> >>>> >> >> > * Mini t-shooting clinics >>> >>>> >> >> > * Perhaps some "kid friendly" topics for the summer? >>> >>>> >> >> > * More beginner topics like: >>> >>>> >> >> > * bash >>> >>>> >> >> > * vim >>> >>>> >> >> > * Maybe some network architecture (Bill!?) thoughts >>> >>>> >> >> > >>> >>>> >> >> > Other folks, chime in. >>> >>>> >> >> > >>> >>>> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> For North I'd love to see a talk on Ansible or zsh! :) >>> >>>> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> If not I guess I can watch the video replays... >>> >>>> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> I'm probably not a great source for identifying questions new >>> >>>> >> >> folks >>> >>>> >> >> would have, but I don't mind putting together a talk if some >>> >>>> >> >> want to >>> >>>> >> >> raise questions. Some low-to-intermediate-level questions >>> >>>> >> >> that might >>> >>>> >> >> come up are: >>> >>>> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> * Tours of various desktop environments/etc. >>> >>>> >> >> * A comparison of various package managers/formats (I'd be >>> >>>> >> >> interested >>> >>>> >> >> in that one myself - I'm thinking capabilities/major >>> >>>> >> >> design/etc - what >>> >>>> >> >> can rpm do that deb can't, etc) >>> >>>> >> >> * How to build a kernel >>> >>>> >> >> * X11 concepts (or for that matter Wayland) >>> >>>> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> -- >>> >>>> >> >> Rich >>> >>>> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> ___________________________________________________________________________ >>> >>>> >> >> Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- >>> >>>> >> >> http://www.phillylinux.org >>> >>>> >> >> Announcements - >>> >>>> >> >> http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce >>> >>>> >> >> General Discussion -- >>> >>>> >> >> http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> ___________________________________________________________________________ >>> >>>> >> Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- >>> >>>> >> http://www.phillylinux.org >>> >>>> >> Announcements - >>> >>>> >> http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce >>> >>>> >> General Discussion -- >>> >>>> >> http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > ___________________________________________________________________________ >>> >>>> > Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- >>> >>>> > http://www.phillylinux.org >>> >>>> > Announcements - >>> >>>> > http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce >>> >>>> > General Discussion -- >>> >>>> > http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> >>> >>>> ___________________________________________________________________________ >>> >>>> Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- >>> >>>> http://www.phillylinux.org >>> >>>> Announcements - >>> >>>> http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce >>> >>>> General Discussion -- >>> >>>> http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ___________________________________________________________________________ >>> >>> Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- >>> >>> http://www.phillylinux.org >>> >>> Announcements - >>> >>> http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce >>> >>> General Discussion -- >>> >>> http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug >>> >>> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> ___________________________________________________________________________ >>> >> Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- >>> >> http://www.phillylinux.org >>> >> Announcements - >>> >> http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce >>> >> General Discussion -- >>> >> http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> ___________________________________________________________________________ >>> >> Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- >>> >> http://www.phillylinux.org >>> >> Announcements - >>> >> http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce >>> >> General Discussion -- >>> >> http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug >>> >> >>> >>> ___________________________________________________________________________ >>> Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- >>> http://www.phillylinux.org >>> Announcements - >>> http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce >>> General Discussion -- >>> http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug >> >> >> >> >> ___________________________________________________________________________ >> Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- >> http://www.phillylinux.org >> Announcements - >> http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce >> General Discussion -- >> http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug >> > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org > Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce > General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug