Re: [PLUG] PLUG W and presos

Anthony Martin

Jr Linux System Administrator

(M) 609-410-1168
anthony.j.martin142@gmail.com

On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 10:50 AM, Jonathan Simpson <jonathan@jdsnetwork.com> wrote:

We should be ok to do this series at CoreDial. I just need dates and
such to confirm availability and make sure someone can stick around to
host (probably myself).

Additionally, it occurred to me there's a couple 2 hour workshop slots
still open at FOSSCON this year. Any chance we could have a solid
intro level thing for that?

On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 4:54 PM, Roque Lachica Jr
<hawkstone731@gmail.com> wrote:
> A six- pack of Ying Lings / Black&Tan ale awaits me after I get that cert.
> Maybe two.
>
> On Jun 16, 2015 4:50 PM, "Anthony Martin" <anthony.j.martin142@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> actually if we may do classes why not cover the topics for the LPIC-1 so
>> everyone can work together and learn so they can get certified if they want.
>>
>> Anthony Martin
>>
>> Jr Linux System Administrator
>>
>> (M) 609-410-1168
>> anthony.j.martin142@gmail.com
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 2:54 PM, Keith C. Perry
>> <kperry@daotechnologies.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Good point. Linux is a multi-user and its not obvious that that is the
>>> case if you're not doing server work.
>>>
>>> I like your approach too- very similar to what I was thinking. More
>>> focus on the pranking and hardening though.
>>>
>>> ---
>>> KP-
>>>
>>> On Jun 16, 2015 2:31 PM, Rachel Rawlings <rachelneko@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Keith,
>>> >
>>> > When Paden had us all in his Raspberry Pi, it was a great reminder that
>>> > Linux as a multi-user system can be fun. Most of us are just alone on our
>>> > workstations and laptops, or maintaining multiuser servers where stability
>>> > and uptime are of utmost importance. (Not an xor)
>>> >
>>> > I think we should have a lab meeting that starts with multiuser, single
>>> > host communication and just general pranking, following the law of /most/
>>> > surprise. Then we follow that wirh a session on hardening.
>>> >
>>> > On Jun 16, 2015 10:34 AM, "Keith C. Perry" <kperry@daotechnologies.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> I know its a more advanced topic but I wouldn't mind running a network
>>> >> "war game". One of the things I used to do when I was teaching more
>>> >> advanced networking courses was break the class up into groups and tell them
>>> >> to interconnect themselves. Basically go through the similar the process of
>>> >> building networks and peering.
>>> >>
>>> >> Then I tell them to try and gain intelligence (topology, running
>>> >> services, etc) on the other networks including any compromises they could
>>> >> muster.
>>> >>
>>> >> Good times as you can imagine.
>>> >>
>>> >> Obviously various security methods were learned but the other thing
>>> >> that came out was how hard it was to do a successful compromise when you
>>> >> know how to trap and trace attacks.
>>> >>
>>> >> For new Linux users especially those interested in networking, a
>>> >> workshop like this could help gain confidence in understanding what attacks
>>> >> look like, how to rate them (i.e. prioritize for action) and why things
>>> >> aren't nearly as easy to do as tv and film would have you believe.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
>>> >> Keith C. Perry, MS E.E.
>>> >> Owner, DAO Technologies LLC
>>> >> (O) +1.215.525.4165 x2033
>>> >> (M) +1.215.432.5167
>>> >> www.daotechnologies.com
>>> >>
>>> >> ________________________________
>>> >> From: "rachelneko" <rachelneko@gmail.com>
>>> >> To: "Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List"
>>> >> <plug@lists.phillylinux.org>
>>> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 10:13:18 AM
>>> >> Subject: Re: [PLUG] PLUG W and presos
>>> >>
>>> >> I never got the impression that any PLUG folks were afraid of the
>>> >> command line, but this would be a great topic for outreach, or for a
>>> >> lightning talk night. Kinda like MJD's "What's in my ~/bin" with a bunch of
>>> >> us showing off a few small tricks and pipelines.
>>> >>
>>> >> On Jun 16, 2015 8:11 AM, "Anthony Martin"
>>> >> <anthony.j.martin142@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Those are the type of topics we were considering teaching stuff that
>>> >>> is actually relevant and useful in the workplace and also what life is like
>>> >>> working with FLOSS.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Anthony Martin
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Jr Linux System Administrator
>>> >>>
>>> >>> (M) 609-410-1168
>>> >>> anthony.j.martin142@gmail.com
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 7:52 AM, Jonathan Simpson
>>> >>> <jonathan@jdsnetwork.com> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> To get ahead of things I'll pitch this today at CoreDial.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> I know internally there is probably some interest. Some topics I
>>> >>>> think
>>> >>>> would be of interest...
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Linux from the CLI: to explore the basic CLI commands and
>>> >>>> beyond-basic
>>> >>>> usage of them. I think a lot of folks used to GUI linux know what ls
>>> >>>> and cp are for, but would possibly have an interest in more advanced
>>> >>>> commands and piping them together. For me learning to string things
>>> >>>> together was what took the CLI from a mundane chore when other
>>> >>>> things
>>> >>>> were not working to a toolbox that made life easier.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Setting up a LAMP server: This is kind of my goto to get someone
>>> >>>> introduced to command line linux. It touches a lot of pieces and you
>>> >>>> can finish with a usable product, and it's pretty easy to take that
>>> >>>> usable product and continue to install a CMS on top of it to make it
>>> >>>> even more approachable.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 7:44 AM, Anthony Martin
>>> >>>> <anthony.j.martin142@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>>> > One thing I was discussing with Keith was the possibility of
>>> >>>> > having actual
>>> >>>> > classes at North on days other than the normal meetings. Going
>>> >>>> > over beginner
>>> >>>> > topics and some advanced topics. Would anyone be interested in
>>> >>>> > this?
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> > On Tue, Jun 16, 2015, 7:40 AM Jonathan Simpson
>>> >>>> > <jonathan@jdsnetwork.com>
>>> >>>> > wrote:
>>> >>>> >>
>>> >>>> >> A bash and vim night seem like they could be a good combo topic,
>>> >>>> >> although there is enough content to both to stand alone.
>>> >>>> >>
>>> >>>> >> I'm probably going to get together a release party/installfest at
>>> >>>> >> the
>>> >>>> >> next Ubuntu release this fall.
>>> >>>> >>
>>> >>>> >> I'm all for the kids stuff. Do we have a place to do it?
>>> >>>> >>
>>> >>>> >> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 7:05 AM, Jonathan Simpson
>>> >>>> >> <jsimpson@jdsnetwork.com> wrote:
>>> >>>> >> > A bash and vim night seem like they could be a good combo
>>> >>>> >> > topic,
>>> >>>> >> > although
>>> >>>> >> > there is enough content to both to stand alone.
>>> >>>> >> >
>>> >>>> >> > I'm probably going to get together a release party/installfest
>>> >>>> >> > at the
>>> >>>> >> > next
>>> >>>> >> > Ubuntu release this fall.
>>> >>>> >> >
>>> >>>> >> > I'm all for the kids stuff. Do we have a place to do it?
>>> >>>> >> >
>>> >>>> >> > On Jun 16, 2015 6:46 AM, "Rich Freeman"
>>> >>>> >> > <r-plug@thefreemanclan.net>
>>> >>>> >> > wrote:
>>> >>>> >> >>
>>> >>>> >> >> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 1:00 AM, JP Vossen <jp@jpsdomain.org>
>>> >>>> >> >> wrote:
>>> >>>> >> >> >
>>> >>>> >> >> > Second, last night we were talking about presentations for
>>> >>>> >> >> > future
>>> >>>> >> >> > meetings and some of the things that came up are:
>>> >>>> >> >> >
>>> >>>> >> >> > * Mini install-fests
>>> >>>> >> >> > * Mini t-shooting clinics
>>> >>>> >> >> > * Perhaps some "kid friendly" topics for the summer?
>>> >>>> >> >> > * More beginner topics like:
>>> >>>> >> >> > * bash
>>> >>>> >> >> > * vim
>>> >>>> >> >> > * Maybe some network architecture (Bill!?) thoughts
>>> >>>> >> >> >
>>> >>>> >> >> > Other folks, chime in.
>>> >>>> >> >> >
>>> >>>> >> >>
>>> >>>> >> >> For North I'd love to see a talk on Ansible or zsh! :)
>>> >>>> >> >>
>>> >>>> >> >> If not I guess I can watch the video replays...
>>> >>>> >> >>
>>> >>>> >> >> I'm probably not a great source for identifying questions new
>>> >>>> >> >> folks
>>> >>>> >> >> would have, but I don't mind putting together a talk if some
>>> >>>> >> >> want to
>>> >>>> >> >> raise questions. Some low-to-intermediate-level questions
>>> >>>> >> >> that might
>>> >>>> >> >> come up are:
>>> >>>> >> >>
>>> >>>> >> >> * Tours of various desktop environments/etc.
>>> >>>> >> >> * A comparison of various package managers/formats (I'd be
>>> >>>> >> >> interested
>>> >>>> >> >> in that one myself - I'm thinking capabilities/major
>>> >>>> >> >> design/etc - what
>>> >>>> >> >> can rpm do that deb can't, etc)
>>> >>>> >> >> * How to build a kernel
>>> >>>> >> >> * X11 concepts (or for that matter Wayland)
>>> >>>> >> >>
>>> >>>> >> >> --
>>> >>>> >> >> Rich
>>> >>>> >> >>
>>> >>>> >> >>
>>> >>>> >> >>
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