Thomas Delrue on 31 Mar 2016 07:31:57 -0700


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Re: [PLUG] Bash on Windows?


I'll take "a change of clothes" for 800, Alex...

Answer: "A wolf"
"Which animal dons the fleece of a sheep? Alex."

On 03/31/2016 09:39 AM, K.S. Bhaskar wrote:
> ​I wonder whether this a change of heart or a change of clothes, e.g., see
> http://techrights.org/2016/03/10/charm-offensives-distract/
> 
> On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 9:13 AM, Will <staticphantom@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> From what I read on the topic the focus is mostly to support containers on
>> Windows. There isn't a way possible Microsoft's currents software
>> architecture to support containers natively. The goal is to allow docker or
>> a docker compatible extension. This is good news for Linux developers and
>> admins.
>>
>> We need to stop focusing on "the addition of BASH" aspect as much as
>> Windows is trying to add support for native container development. But
>> don't get me wrong, Microsoft is not blindly opening its doors to Linux
>> either. They are merely accepting open source software isn't going anywhere
>> and are discovering to exploit it versus denying it. Remember, Microsoft
>> did make a play by open sourcing .NET 5.0 with the intention of putting it
>> on Linux. My question is what is going to be next and what should we
>> expect?
>>
>> -William
>> On Mar 31, 2016 8:07 AM, "Anthony Martin" <anthony.j.martin142@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> This is meant as a tool for developers more than actual desktop use from
>>> my understanding. I think Microsoft is grasping at straws trying to pull
>>> themselves out of the hole they are in that just keeps getting deeper with
>>> smother walls. Bringing SQL server to Linux is proof they realize that
>>> windows is slipping in the enterprise environment and this move with adding
>>> "BASH" to Windows 10 is admitting they are losing a lot of developers to
>>> Linux and OSX.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 10:21 PM, JP Vossen <jp@jpsdomain.org> wrote:
>>>> On 03/30/2016 09:05 PM, Mike DePaulo wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 8:53 PM, Chris Grabowy <cgrabowy@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Microsoft is bringing the Bash shell to Windows 10
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://techcrunch.com/2016/03/30/be-very-afraid-hell-has-frozen-over-bash-is-coming-to-windows-10/?ncid=rss&cps=gravity_1462_7753874354700491481
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please don’t flog me if this topic is not relevant but for those of us
>>>>>> stuck at work with a Windows desktop/laptop this will be heaven...
>>>>>
>>>>> "a new Linux subsystem in Windows 10"
>>>>>
>>>>> Wow. Remember that Microsoft retired SUA/SFU.
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Services_for_UNIX
>>>>
>>>> More:
>>>> *
>>>> https://linux.slashdot.org/story/16/03/30/1021224/microsoft-and-canonical-partner-to-bring-ubuntu-to-windows-10-says-report
>>>> * Updated:
>>>> https://linux.slashdot.org/story/16/03/30/1021224/confirmed-microsoft-and-canonical-partner-to-bring-ubuntu-to-windows-10
>>>> * Excellent:
>>>> http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2016/03/ubuntu-on-windows.html
>>>> * Related:
>>>> http://news.slashdot.org/story/15/06/02/1950234/microsoft-to-support-ssh-in-windows-and-contribute-to-openssh
>>>>
>>>> Several hours ago I sent an email at work with the subject line
>>>> "Bringing all the stability and security of Windows to Ubuntu."  I'm really
>>>> torn, because on one hand I think this is horrible idea, per that subject
>>>> line.  On the other hand, IF it actually works, having useful tools (esp.
>>>> SSH) on Windows would be cool for us on this list.
>>>>
>>>> But for those new to Ubuntu, how does saddling Ubuntu with all the pain,
>>>> instability and insecurity of Windows affect the perception of Ubuntu?
>>>>
>>>> And related, how will this affect Cygwin?

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