Re: [PLUG] Webroot

[ac <ac@main.me>]

imnsho anyone using free anything should know that they are the product

people should accept that they are products as they are not paying for
any service(s) 

What makes social networking systems even more evil is that they do
not even produce the content, the products produce the content and the
products market the content and peer pressure other people to become
products... 

either way, personally i use my facebook account maybe once every three
months and only when i am looking for an old product that i knew from
school or college. Even that usage is becoming less as the products are
dying, disappearing and also not using facebook so regularly any longer...

i have no use for twitter as it is so inbred and snap is for kids, i do
not have gmail, etc so basically i am a somewhat defective product :)

On Thu, 27 Apr 2017 00:34:53 -0400
Ronald P Guilmet <ronpguilmet@gmail.com> wrote:

> I agree, I don't believe in treating users the way they do. To some
> extent we have no privacy anymore. The way I see Facebook phishing is
> in this way: you will see something that says answer the following 20
> things for fun. They are mostly things that are not need to be known
> by others on your friend list. For example put a number after the
> following: 1. Marriages 2. Divorces 3. Children 4. Current car 5.
> Favorite vacation spot, etc. How many states have you been to? These
> can be fun to fill out with friends, but I understand what is really
> going on. There is a high level of apathy with this among Facebook
> users I know. I tell them, and they could care less. I'm not sure if
> Google or Yahoo phish under the guise of sharing personal stuff with
> others, but that is a big Facebook thing.
> 
> I know what you mean about deleting your Facebook account, I've been
> there. The delete process is that your account goes to an inactive
> state, and they after 14 days, the account is deleted. The thing is,
> most people after a few days are wondering how Bob is doing with his
> new whatever, and they log back in cancelling the deletion process
> lol.
> 
> Facebook has a poor rating with a lot of people that I know. I got on
> Facebook when it first came out in what 2004? My Marine friends where
> the reason I used Facebook. These guys are all over the country
> and/or world, and it is nice to keep up with them. That novelty wore
> off a very very long time ago for me. Facebook went from sharing your
> vacation pics with family to an opinion box. It's constant
> negativity. People complaining about the social issue and that social
> issue. If it's not opinions it's a lot of passive aggressive
> behavior. For example, I have something to say about <insert name
> here>, but I don't want to say it to them directly. I'll put this
> here>meme out there in the hopes this person gets the message. That
> here>shit
> kills, I can't take it lol.
> 
> They have a tracking site that you could go to and opt out of the
> tracking, but I forget the URL. Plus being a programmer, how do I
> trust they really opted me out? Did a script just tell me I'm out,
> but I'm really not?
> 
> On Microsoft, I tried to get my father-in-law to switch to Linux for
> his small business. The main problem they were having is the office
> folks were downloading stuff left and right. There was malware out
> the ying yang. I put Ubuntu on a computer, and I showed them that
> Libre Office would open their Microsoft docs. Well the formatting was
> a tad off. They had fit. That was unacceptable. I was ok, it's your
> money. You have to buy a Windows OS and purchase Office now. Again
> apathy. A lot of folks just don't care. On general principle, I
> refuse to pay for that software lol. unreal man
> 
> On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 7:52 PM, Keith C. Perry
> <kperry@daotechnologies.com> wrote:
> 
> > I agree that Facebook is a phishing site if for no other reason
> > then to me it seems lkethey treat their users as product.  You can
> > never delete your account, they have a poor record with user
> > security- hell, when surveyed Facebook users have a low opinion of
> > Facebook (probably due to many people joining under peer or family
> > pressure).
> >
> > That said, I'm not sure if you can distinguish what Facebook does
> > from what Google, Yahoo and Microsoft do.  With Google and Yahoo
> > this might even be more widespread but at least there is a  way to
> > not be tracked (op-out or go private in your browser).  Maybe that
> > is the difference.  With Microsoft, we're back to the problem with
> > people using the thingy that everyone else uses even if it is a bad
> > idea.
> >
> > Yes, I do believe using Facebook and Microsoft stuff is a bad idea
> >
> > I'm not 100% against companies engaging with users to emerge the
> > best way to advertise to them but it really should be up to the
> > customer how that is done otherwise people are going to go
> > elsewhere.  Companies like FB and MS want people to feel like they
> > don't have a choice so that they can do what they want but here at
> > PLUG we know there is always a choice.
> >
> > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
> > Keith C. Perry, MS E.E.
> > Owner, DAO Technologies LLC
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> >
> > ------------------------------
> > *From: *ronpguilmet@gmail.com
> > *To: *"Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List" <
> > plug@lists.phillylinux.org>
> > *Sent: *Wednesday, April 26, 2017 1:58:54 PM
> > *Subject: *Re: [PLUG] Webroot
> >
> > There is no doubt in my mind that Facebook, is a phishing site. I
> > can’t prove this, but I know Facebook aggregates large amounts of
> > data on their users. For example this is how I would phish users,
> > these tell me 40 things about Ron (does he like this or that) gives
> > me a more 360 view of you. This leads to better marketing of
> > products and services to that user. I put my tin foil hat on, and I
> > have a sneaky suspicion that these posts on Facebook are plants.
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
> > Windows 10
> >
> >
> >
> > *From: *Keith C. Perry <kperry@daotechnologies.com>
> > *Sent: *Wednesday, April 26, 2017 12:55 PM
> > *To: *Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List
> > <plug@lists.phillylinux.org>
> > *Subject: *Re: [PLUG] Webroot
> >
> >
> >
> > Yea I got the emails from Webroot on this too.  I had to laugh.  I
> > think their software has it right  :D
> >
> >
> >
> > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
> >
> > Keith C. Perry, MS E.E.
> >
> > Owner, DAO Technologies LLC
> >
> > (O) +1.215.525.4165 x2033 <(215)%20525-4165>
> >
> > (M) +1.215.432.5167 <(215)%20432-5167>
> >
> > www.daotechnologies.com
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> > From: "jeff" <jeffv@op.net>
> >
> > To: "Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List" <
> > plug@lists.phillylinux.org>
> >
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 8:28:36 AM
> >
> > Subject: [PLUG] Webroot
> >
> >
> >
> > Webroot Antivirus 'mistakenly' flags Windows as malware and FB as a
> >
> > phishing site.
> >
> >
> >
> > Not sure why they said mistakenly...
> >
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